Open Curriculum BAs

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  1. jonlevy

    jonlevy Active Member

    Any suggestion on accredited online schools that accept transfer credits and have an open curriculum or no math or science requirement?
     
  2. nyvrem

    nyvrem Active Member

    no maths or science? i think that's kinda hard to find.

    i know FHSU has a BGS program that says no math course required.

    https://www.fhsu.edu/bgs/requirements/

     
  3. Courcelles

    Courcelles Active Member

    That degree requires 12 hours of math and science, in the general education segment.


    • Natural Sciences and Mathematics (12 Credit Hours)
      Biological Sciences, Chemistry, Geosciences (Geography and Geology), Mathematics and Physics”

    • So you can escape the math at FHSU, but not the science.
     
  4. AsianStew

    AsianStew Moderator Staff Member

    Most if not all degrees will have a math/science component, there really is no "escape" from taking those courses. You can compare the Big 3 with some Competency Based degree providers and see which takes "lesser". I think taking courses at Sophia.org, CSMLearn, and other ACE providers for the bulk of your general education/free electives would be a great option as these are non proctored "math/stats" courses that can be taken slowly and is self paced...
     
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  5. Rachel83az

    Rachel83az Well-Known Member

    For as little math and science as possible, I'd suggest a degree at TESU. The science courses at Sophia are easy, no labs, and TESU accepts CSM Learn for the math requirement. If you can do basic addition and subtraction, you've essentially completed CSM Learn already.

    So, while a TESU BA may technically require 9 (or so) math & science credits, it's still probably the easiest way to get a degree of math & science aren't your thing.
     
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  6. Rich Douglas

    Rich Douglas Well-Known Member

    This points out a significant difference between higher education in the USA and in other places around the world. In America, a college degree has a significant interdisciplinary component--liberal arts and sciences--used as a grounding for your education and development. Thus, all students have SOME math, science, social science, and humanities requirements, regardless of your major.

    But in other systems, when you read, say, physics, that's what you study for 3 or 4 years--physics. Your "rounding" is presumed to have occurred during your secondary schooling.

    So, should the OP try to take a bachelor's degree from a UK (or other) school? Probably not, since he/she is also interested in transferring credit, which likely would not be useful.

    But all is not lost. Many schools are very light on specifics when it comes to math and sciences. Their requirements can often be met with less-than-difficult course choices. This is particularly true of "The Big Three," who are highly flexible in what they accept AND are great havens for those with many credits to transfer. But there is another way.

    If, say, earning a master's in a particular field is of interest, the bachelor's can be bypassed at some UK schools. Instead, students can take certificate programs in lieu of a bachelor's and then be admitted to the master's. This isn't a particularly strong area for me, but my experience at one UK school showed this as a pathway. It might be worth exploring.
     
  7. Rachel83az

    Rachel83az Well-Known Member

    I went to double check because I posted from mobile earlier. A BALS degree from TESU requires 3 credits in math. This can be covered by CSM Learn. For the 6 credits of science, you have your choice of the following courses from Sophia: Introduction to Information Technology, Human Biology, or Environmental Science.

    Since you're using a computer to post here, you can probably pass the IT course without even reading most of the materials. Human Biology is probably easier than a lot of high school biology courses. Most people probably know at least half the information in the course simply by virtue of being human. Environmental Science is more difficult, but only by virtue of presenting so much new information. It's still pretty easy. If you sign up at Sophia.org, I think you can test-drive the first unit of each course for free to see how easy/difficult it is for you.

    Once you've got those three classes met, TESU is pretty generous (in general) about credit acceptance. There are a few other requirements to meet (specific numbers of actual RA college credits, limits on the amount of alternate credits, and an optional classes-from-TESU requirement). But, broadly speaking, you'll be able to choose the classes that interest you most and use those for your degree.
     
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  8. jonlevy

    jonlevy Active Member

    Yes will definitely look at TESU and Ft. Hay, I hear SNHU is also fairly neogotiable.
     
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  9. TEKMAN

    TEKMAN Semper Fi!

    The short answer is "NO!" Should go for the Master degree that does not require a Bachelor degree. Every undergraduate degree requires general education, which includes maths and sciences.
     
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  10. Dustin

    Dustin Well-Known Member

    We don't know where the original poster is located, but I'll assume the US because they're considering primarily US schools. I think having a masters on your resume but no bachelor's is going to raise a lot more questions than even an uncommon bachelor's degree like a Bachelor of General Studies or Bachelor of Liberal Arts would.

    If you need the masters as a minimum to get a promotion at your current employer it may be useful, but my thoughts when reviewing a resume would start with "they forgot to list their undergrad" and then "are they ashamed of or trying to hide their bachelor's for some reason?"

    Only after those two would I consider they went to a school that allows people to get in without bachelor's degrees, a very uncommon arrangement in the US.
     
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  11. Rich Douglas

    Rich Douglas Well-Known Member

    Well it's not like they would not have a diploma program to list as well.
    Oh, I don't know. You'd be surprised what you can get waived.
     
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  12. jonlevy

    jonlevy Active Member

    Open Curriculum BA with no math or science is possible at a number of expensive residential private colleges: Weslyan, Oberlin, Grinell, Hamilton, Warren Wilson, Vasser so there should logically be an online version.
     
  13. nyvrem

    nyvrem Active Member

    You could consider a BA from the UK via DL..

    i mean, i did get a BS in ICT from the University of Derby without doing any math/science modules. (sounds crazy)
     
  14. Rich Douglas

    Rich Douglas Well-Known Member

    Why? They probably expect that applicants are already qualified in those areas from secondary school.
     
  15. chrisjm18

    chrisjm18 Well-Known Member

    At Ashworth, I didn't take any science courses because I completed the AAS then transfer to the B.S. However, I took a math course.
     
  16. Rachel83az

    Rachel83az Well-Known Member

    Perhaps it would help if you clarified exactly why you're looking for a degree like this. But a TESU BALS is probably about as close as you're going to get online. The mentioned courses are BARELY even math or science. Give them a shot.

    An AAS requires multiple math and/or science courses in the first place, no?
     
  17. chrisjm18

    chrisjm18 Well-Known Member

    If it did, I'm sure I would have taken multiple.
     

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