Online MBA at the University of Liverpool

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  1. joi

    joi New Member

    Hi Dave:

    David Standen, Director of Admissions for the IE Global Communities MBA advised me to apply to the program on February to be considered for the September intake.

    VERY IMPORTANT: The program will have partial scholarships of their own. The amounts are not yet defined, and I don't know if they will be both need and merit based or just the former.

    David Standen was very responsive to my queries ( and, living in Orwellian Cuba, I had several), so, to me, this speaks very highly of IE( he answered all my 4 emails, comprising 7 or more questions each, within 24 hours).

    I hope this info is helpful for you and others.

    Good luck,


    Joi
     
  2. Ian Anderson

    Ian Anderson Active Member

    Hi Jozy
    Perhaps if you let us know what country you live in, and what you plan to do with your degree we could be of more help to you.
     
  3. morganplus8

    morganplus8 New Member

    Hi Jozy,

    I have completed the U of Liverpool MBA program and can set you straight on what it's really like. Contact me at [email protected] for further details if you wish.

    I assure you, the degree doesn't mention "online" on it and yes, the price has gone up. The program is in demand and they feel they can charge those fees. I did pay less of course, but at the time it seemed high. Laureate is also operating Walden University in the US so you can do some research there as well. No surprise, they are expensive too!

    You pay for what you get and an online degree with a B&M school that has been around since 1881 with 9 nobel prize winners will cost you some money. I've had no problem converting my marks/courses over to Canadian standards as they are readily acceptable and viewed as top notch.

    Good luck with your choices!
    MP
     
  4. w_parker

    w_parker New Member

    Is there any reason not to look at all of the DL AACSB schools in America? Many of them are on par, if not less than U of Phoenix's tuition rates, and in my opinion a better choice for many, at least in my case.

    William
     
  5. jozy

    jozy New Member

    Hello,

    Let me first thank you all for your helpful replies, which are keeping me busy inspecting each option they refer to.

    As "Ian" suggested here is some information about me:
    I have a BA in Communication Engineering (2000)
    I have a masters in Computer and Communication Engineering from the American University of Beirut (2002) www.aub.edu.lb.
    I am working as an IT Engineer for Siemens in Germany (since 2002).
    I am married, and I have a daughter.
    My German language is strong but not strong enough to study in a German College.
    My employer is not willing to financially support me pursuing the MBA.
    I feel that a MBA degree will help me to get to a higher work level.
    As the last obtained degree comes first in the CV, I am sure that a poor MBA from a poor university would negatively affect all the good entries that come afterward in the CV.

    I can pay up to €20000 (may be a bit more) for a good university.

    I believe Imperial College is one of the good options that you've suggested even though its MBA program lasts for about 4 years.

    Anyhow as the Imperial College intake is in September, I will keep on searching, and if I couldn't find any better option till September, then I believe I will go for the Imperial College option.

    @Morgan: I will send you an email with a lot of questions about the UoL, as it's still an option for me.

    @W_Parker: Can you please provide me with a list of all the DL AACSB schools in the states? do you have also a ranking list for the DL programs?

    Thanks for all of you guys, I really appreciate your contributions in this thread.

    Regards
    Jozy
     
  6. JLV

    JLV Active Member

    Jozy, the Imperial College is a very well known university in Europe where I suppose you intend to pursue your professional career. Even if you eventually move to America, a degree from the University of London and the Imperial College wil certainly be very appreciated at the other side of the pond. My wife is a University of London graduate (LSE) and it has open so many doors and opportunities for her we can only feel thankful to the UofL. I used to live very close to the IC in London, (@ Gloucester Road). I used to go there often to the library, and it is an impressive place to study, on par with MIT and other outstanding American engineering schools. It might be worthy to wait a little, and get the best (or one of the best).



    Good luck with your decision
     
  7. Ian Anderson

    Ian Anderson Active Member

  8. w_parker

    w_parker New Member

  9. jozy

    jozy New Member

    Hello again,

    As I told you previously:
    My first choice for the DL MBA is the Imperial College at the moment, but as I still have plenty of time till the enrollment date at IC, I am going to seek more. I may find a more interesting DL MBA program.

    I have contacted the Ellis College - New York Institute of Technology.
    They sent me a sample of how the online class looks like, it seems interesting.
    Any comment on this college ??? (Is it RA? recognized? reputable? ...)

    There is a big different between Distance Learning and Online Learning, isn’t' it?
    I believe the Online Learning method is more convenient and beneficial. It has many advantages over Distance Learning; most important is the interaction with the other students, and with the instructors on daily (or weekly) basis.
    Imperial College offers the Distance Learning Approach only.

    Any comments on this idea?

    Regards
    Jozy
     
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  10. tcmak

    tcmak New Member

    Hi,

    Can you define "Online Learning" and "Distance Learning" here?

    It's a bit confused as IC does make use of the online environment to teach.
     
  11. Ted Heiks

    Ted Heiks Moderator and Distinguished Senior Member

    "Online learning" is a subset of "distance learning," which can also include paper and print classes, cassette tape classes, videotaped classes, and any other modality that allows professor and student to be in two separate places when teaching/learning occurs.
     
  12. jozy

    jozy New Member

    Thanks Ted Heiks for the clarification.

    1. Still wondering what is more beneficial:
    A. Totally online DL MBA (based only on assignments - with no exams) Example University of Liverpool
    B. MBA with a bit online help, and based on exams that have to be done in a consulate or in a univeristy branch. Example Imperial College.

    2. Still waiting for some comments on the Ellis College of NY IT

    3. I ordered the John bear's DL book. Until I get it, can you answer this question please?
    If the University is accredited, does it mean that the accredition is valid for all the degrees offered by this university (including the DL degrees?)
    And if a UK University has Royal Charter (Like the University of Liverpool) does it mean that the online MBA degree offered by this university is accredited and recognized all over the world (both professionally and academically)?

    Thanks guys.
    Jozy
     
  13. horric29

    horric29 New Member

    I know I'm probably a bit late on my post, but, Im attending Ellis College through NYIT and it has been great! The courses are challenging every six weeks but, well worth it. I wouldnt look at this program if you are looking to breeze through though. If you need more info let me know!
     
  14. Ted Heiks

    Ted Heiks Moderator and Distinguished Senior Member

    1. Yes.

    2. I think I have heard that the Royal Charter is considered the equivalent of accreditation for UK schools under Generally Accepted Accreditation Principles. However, the real expert on issues pertaining to the UK system of education is Angela Gilham (screen name: agilham). PM her and tell her she is needed on this thread.
     
  15. Ted Heiks

    Ted Heiks Moderator and Distinguished Senior Member

    Depends on whether you're more comfortable with writing papers or taking exams.
     
  16. ianmoseley

    ianmoseley New Member

    In general terms a UK based body needs permission to use the term 'University' in the UK.

    Technically speaking, this permission may be given without a Royal Charter, but I am not actually aware of any such instance.

    The question of whether or not the UK degree is one that the UK Government recognises as such is based on inclusion in a list maintained by legislation (already mentioned in this thread). However the body does not need to be called a University to be included in the list.

    The question of whether anyone else recognises the degree really depends on the overall reputation of the institution and on the system within which it operates.

    That said, I still have a copy of the book "The 10 day MBA" which claims you only need that length of time to learn everything you need to know!! ;-)
     
  17. quest_chun

    quest_chun New Member

    Re: Ellis College

    I'm a bit late on this too but here is an overview of my experience with Ellis College of NYIT.

    NYIT is regionally accredited and Ellis is a divison of NYIT so falls under it. Admissions process was ok. I worked with a rep who answered all of my questions. For the most part, it was painless. The financial aid process felt new to me because it has been a long time since I applied for aid.

    The price for the program is moderate. $24K for general MBA and $27K for MBA with a specialization. Books and materials are not included. Employer reimbursement helps!

    GMAT is not required. You need a bachelor's degree from an RA college and must be employed full-time in a career-oriented capacity with 3 years experience.

    I'm in my 8th and 9th courses and so far they have been excellent with the exception of one, which did not feel as well developed. However, it got the job done and I learned a great deal. All of the other classes were great. Quality level is high and most of the courses were developed in association with top business schools such as Stanford, Columbia, U. of Chicago, Carnegie Mellon, and London School of Economics.

    The courses are completely online. There is rich interactive content including video clip lectures by professors, well designed learning animations, self-assessments, online articles, and learning resources. Each course has 6 to 7 "tasks" or projects. For me, I have to spend 1-2 hrs of studying per day and most of the projects have taken me lots of time and serious effort. You definitely will work hard, unless you are really experienced and business smart.

    The college undergoes constant improvements in their web interface with includes many resources such as access to your grades, course schedule, financial status and balance. The learning resources include class message boards, 1-on-1 faculty message boards, and team boards. You can click on a classmates name and real-time chat with them privately with option for audio/video conference (which I have yet to try out).

    Although I find the courses very challenging, the way the have it structured makes it extremely easy and fun to learn at the same time. The lessons are often applicable at your work because they put you in the role of a manager facing real-world problems.

    Upon completing the program, you will receive a degree from NYIT, the same as on-campus students. You have the option of attending the graduation ceremony at one of the 3 campuses in NY. You have access to the same resources as campus-based students such as online libraries, career placement aid, and networking. You can even obtain a student ID if you visit one of the campuses and provide proof of enrollement.

    I am very happy to be in this program. They have recently opened an online merchandise store where you can purchase school t-shirts, mug cups, mouse pads, car decals, etc.

    On last note is the adjunct faculty have been great. Every one has been very experienced in their profession, very helpful when questions arise, and motivating. If you put in alot of work, you will gain a wealth of knowlege in return. This is a real school and a real program.

    Is it the best? No, but for my situation (work, family, life committments) it does the job, which is to increase my abilities as a manager in many aspects of business.

    I hope this helps and good luck no matter which school you choose!

    Q_c
     
  18. horric29

    horric29 New Member

    I'll agree with all of that... The price is high but, my employer recommended the program and in my 5th class I've enjoyed all but my Finance class...
     

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