Discussion in 'Political Discussions' started by Lerner, Oct 24, 2020.
If you throw a pot of spaghetti on the wall, a few strands might stick, huh? Um....no.
Rudy didn't even bother cooking the spaghetti. He didn't even have any water in the pan. The problem is that he got his spaghetti recipe from the Russians.
Yes, Russians are the favored of the left. What would they do without Russia?
This has been demonstrated to be utterly false. A Republican president appointed a Republican to investigate this after he had a Republican fire the Republican in charge (after the other Republican recused himself), and the Republican investigator found more than 100 instances of contact between Russian operatives and the Republican's presidential campaign, not to mention obstruction of justice by the Republican president and a host of crimes conducted by several of the Republican president's Republican allies, all of whom where prosecuted by the Republican administration's DoJ, convicted, and sentenced (often by judges appointed by judges appointed by Republican presidents)
Those darn Russian-loving Democrats!
Well is not the Trump Russia collusion fiasco, there will be less Dem's seats in the house today.
This is what I meant about the Russians.
So maybe its ChiCons who are the favored of the Dems?
Here is another attempt to help you accept reality.
Four former officials familiar with the matter told the Post that the intelligence officers were worried that the president’s personal lawyer was being used to pass Russian misinformation to Trump.
The President obviously didn't listen to his intelligence community on this because this was one of the options the President had for an October surprise. He has apparently failed to get his October surprise. This is not due to a lack of trying or a lack of dishonestly. There has been plenty of both invested in his effort on an October surprise. This one hasn't seemed to fool anyone except for his dedicated base.
This ceaseless parade of conspiracy theories is the latest example of how we're on the wrong side of Brandolini's Law here....
It's easier to sit on one's rear and make up conspiracy theories than doing real journalism. Especially when wanting a specific outcome like getting material to smear a political rival.
Looking at the How the forecast has changed chart at
from August 31 to about October 11 we saw a steady decline in Trump's chance to win the election. It looks like the decline has leveled off now. I was expecting a resurgence for Trump by now. Just a reassessment and adjustment of the message by the Trump campaign should have had such an effect. Probably a combination of Trump trusting his gut more than his advisors and the Covid19 pandemic worsening has prevented that, I'd guess. We're closing in on the last week of the 2020 campaign. Time is running out for an October surprise or the President to refine his closing message, nearly 60 million votes have already been cast. It's desperation time for Trump so watch that space.
I'm really trying to hang in there. Do you mean "Were it not"? Do you mean "fewer"? Do you mean "Dems"?
Are you saying the "Russian collusion fiasco" (whatever that is) was for the benefit of Democrats? I can think of one very prominent Democrat who might disagree.
Real unbiased jurnalism is rare and hard to find. No one has a monopoly on it.
It appears that the Internet killed the big network's journalism, and people are less trusting of the big networks that depend on the sponsors and appear sell out politically.
Absolutely, the whole Trump Russia collusion witchhunt benefitted Democrats and was one of the major boosters in gaining more seats in the house.
All the American people heard for 2 years is Russian Collusion.
I thought the matter should have been looked at by the agencies but all the fiasco attacks over the sold-out left media against the US President non stop 24 x 7 was
lynching and unfair.
Bad things happen, it's a reality. Conspiracies are there its a fact.
Recently the FBI folded a conspiracy to kidnap a governor. This things a lot of times are real.
And yes there are some that are not.
What is the evidence? Is it being suppressed? Who is checking the things out?
Some may be proved beyond a theory.
Like Chinese, Ukrainian money, and the Bidens Jr Laptop.
Some witnesses came out and documents.
Maybe after the elections, we will find out more. FBI has the laptop and the drive.
More information coming out including business partners that come forward.
Ain't over yet. I think after the election more will be revealed.
Unlike with RHC in 2016, this time the FBI is more careful.
Again I rather this is a lie than the truth. I prefer to see Biden clean and honest man.
But these issues just like the left did to Resident Trump are popping up and looks like being looked at.
Not talking about suppression by the Tech oligarchs.
Not the opinions, credibility, and quality of the evidence is what counts.
Searching the gutter of the Internet looking for information that supports one's already held views is not a reasonable replacement for "big network" news media.
Anyway, I apologize to myself for getting into this.
On page 25 of the Tea Leaves thread I said,
"Any information from any source that you don't want to believe can't be trusted. While any information from any source that you want to believe may very well be true. I've suspected that is the way that it works for a while now. Thanks for making it crystal clear."
Your response was indeed that was correct. Which basically means to me that you believe there is no way to know what is really true. So why should I bother even discussing it? So instead you post your silly conspiracy theories and I'll try to correct the lies for others but it is pointless discussing it with you. Sorry if I've misunderstood but that seems like it is just the way it is.
Fox News has much more credibility than CNM, MSNEC, etc.
I see the result of how successful left media brainwashing people.
I'm sorry. I stopped at "Fox News has much more credibility" so I could finish laughing. Who are CNM and MSNEC?
You people can't decide if the media that isn't Fox (or OANN, or Sinclair, or those fake sites everywhere) is "liberal" or "mainstream." So let me help you. "Liberal" and "mainstream" mean the exact same thing in America. On every major issue facing America, Democrats are aligned with the majority.
The truth is only "liberal" or "fake news" when you can't handle it. But guess what? It doesn't go away. Because it is real.
Rich not exactly,
In this case, I responded to Bill, he was referring that I reserve to some shadow internet, and I meant to say Fox News is not a shadowed internet outfit.
So this was my response to Bill.
As to shadow internet or less know news sources, sometimes they have more credible news than biased media.
I remember reading on one "shadow" internet news about reports that Hisballa was planning to kidnap soldiers on Lebanon border with Israel in a specific time frame.
They quoted intelligence sources.
Nobody else was reporting this at the time. All I can say they were 100% correct.
There were other times that I read the news on these channels that are not reported in mainstream media. Or sometimes mainstream media is very late to report what I already know from other news.
Now I know this news outfit been labeled as unreliable and biased.
Yet time after time I read confirmed reports or hear in the news confirming reports that what I read there was accurate.
Today they reported interesting news.
I will see if someone else more credible will report about it
It has to do with Iran and secret work at 2 nuclear sites.
Fox News, right wing, mixed on factual reporting: https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/fox-news/
CNN, left wing, mixed on factual reporting: https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/cnn/
MSNBC, left wing, mixed on factual reporting: https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/msnbc/
None of these are news channels. They are entertainment channels with different target markets. All of them push constant outrage and alarm, because that keeps viewer attention, and viewer attention sells ads. That's it, that's all there is to it.
And no, Fox News isn't more credible, you just like it better because it plays to your particular set of preconceived notions.
Separate names with a comma.