New & would like to meet people.

Again?????

"No. I just have a life when I'm away from here; and work to do; and sleep to get caught-up on. Silly me."

Apparently not enough of a life to keep you from coming back to reply to me eh?

And............( again to piss you off ) Don't use that old adage as your feeble excuse to try to convince us of anything other than the fact that it took you a long time to come up with a response.

Everybody is busy around here but I see that you posted a few other times before you got around to formulating a response to us.

And to think that this whole thing got going because you got upset and all worked up over a 20 something's silly naive post. Sheeeeeesh!!!!!

At least I don't claim to have too much of a life to keep me from laughing at you along with the rest of the board.

"I do my best."

Talk about ironic. I guess it was MY error this time to not put this is RED to make my point that I was just out to show you that you are NOT funny. But I didn't did I? Just like you didn't put your misspelling in RED either. Oh well, woulda coulda shoulda. Lost my chance.

"Hmm. Now who's getting "worked-up?"

Whatever happened to "whatever?"

Worked up? Me? Naw, I'm just toying with you. Much like a cat does with a mouse before he eats him unless the mouse escapes and runs away. Which will it be for you? Will you be eaten or will you run and hide?

Go ahead and continue to trade barbs with me, I need the distraction.

YOU are the one that made the claim that I would quickly learn to fear you. Now back it up .

 

I would classify you as a ............STALKER.

In the meantime, until she returns to grace us with yet another of her mature, well-thought-out, gripping, relevant, poignant fascicles, let's all enjoy one of Fashion School's breathless posts made elsewhere on the web, shall we?
My name is Chanel. I am 18 years old and I was born on November 9, 1985. I currently reside in Dracut, MA. I have dark brown hair and eyes, I'm 5', and I weigh about 103lbs. I am in love with my best friend of 2 years named Jimmy. We've been in a long distance relationship for about 8 months now but I'm getting interested in someone else:-\ Although I'll always love my Jimmy!!!! I am recently working as a sales associate at Filene's. I hope to go to college in the following year to major in Fashion Design. Along with fashion design, I would also like to become an author, dancer/performer, restaurant owner, charity giver/helper, and anything else that strikes. Because life is too short! I love dancing, music, reading, writing stories, guys, Jimmy, lacrosse, badminton, designing fashions, shopping, movies, TV, meeting new people, chatting online, casual drinking, warm places and/or weather, beaches, cities, feminism, J.Lo, Beyonce, Xtina, Jessica and Ashlee Simpson, Mary Kate and Ashley Olsen, The Hilton sisters, Nicole Richie, Audrey Hepburn, James Dean, Lucille Ball, Marilyn Monroe... I shun racists, haters, homophobes, red necks, slutty people, people who talk w/food in their mouth, people who complain about petty stuff, war, sexists, President Bush, Hilary Duff, Britney Spears, Madonna, Halle Berry... My fave musicians are J.Lo, Maroon 5, Xtina, Jessica Simpson, Ashlee Simpson, Beyonce, Ashanti, Mya, Aaliyah, Usher, OutKast, The Black Eyed Peas, Nelly, Everclear, Sugar Ray, No Doubt, Pink, Anastacia, Shania Twain, Faith Hill, LeAnn Rimes, Jason Mraz, Clay Aiken, Kelly Clarkson, Savage Garden, Michael Jackson (even though he's a FREAK!), George Michael, Prince, KC & The Sunshine Band, Manheim Steamroller... I love to watch Charmed, Gilmore Girls, Smallville, The OC, Reba, What I Like About You, Amish in the City, Queer Eye for the Straight Guy, The Look for Less, The Simple Life, The Surreal Life, E!, VH1, Blind Date, Room Raiders, Nick at Nite, TV Land... Click here for my photo album You can contact me at these screen names... aim: onesmartasschck yahoo: crazie8chck MSN:[email protected] Enjoy reading about me in my diary!

In my book, the fact that you took the time to do the research and find this little tid bit qualifies you as such. I would be worried, very worried if I were you and I would seek some sort of rehabilitation.

I thought you had a life!!!!

See? That old adage doesn't always work does it? We ALL have time to do the insignificant BS that we want to do ( like respond on this board ) and then SOME of us, not me though, have the temerity to try to use our super busy lives to justify our lack of ability to adequately retort when we issue challenges like you did to me and then get responses.

Did you read her diary too or do you have too much time on your hands for that also?

Looking forward to your response I remain " Sparky ".

 

It only takes a minute.

See... right there, you've deluded yourself. None of this is "pissing me off." Never did. Never will.

Adage? Who used an adage? An adage is a saying that sets forth a general truth and that has gained credit through long use. An adage will be recognizable as a common saying. Who adaged?

Listen, Sparky... if you'd step out from behind your username (which, I dare say, would significantly moderate your abusive tone) and allow yourself to be identified, as I've done here from the beginning; and if we then were in a face-to-face situation and you were slinging these same (or even better) barbs, my retorts would be lightning fast. I don't need time to think of comebacks to you. What I need time for is stuff I gotta' do elsewhere besides here. Apparently you don't. Unemployment has its advantages, I guess.

Except you, apparently.

Those don't take much time, either. As I've pointed-out elsewhere herein, I type a net of around 80 words per minute and am blessed with the ability to pretty much get it down kinda' almost the final way that I'd like it to be the very first time I type it. Oh, sure, I use the edit button now and then (a skill you should learn) when I spot a typo I missed or something like that; but I do very little editing of content once it's typed... so it goes pretty fast. As to doing those other responses before responding here, I take 'em in the order they appear when I search on my username to see what's been posted in since the last time I posted in them. If I get interrupted before I finish (which is very common) then when I come back I do the same thing... hence, some threads in which I've posted and in which I intend to reply slide further and further down and it takes me longer to get to them. And finally, this thread is currently my lowest priortiy. I just don't have time to monitor it every few minutes like you apparently do.

This whole thing, between you and me, got started because you're young, and immature, and have an insatiable need to win and get the last word, and believe there's something noble in what you're doing, and are overly stimulated by your testosterone, and think with the little head. Nothing more.

Ah, yes... the schoolyard taunt: Weapon of choice for bullies with little or nothing left to actually say.

We could do this forever and neither of us would ever "win." And the reason, in part, would be because you're hiding behind a username and are free to be as irresponsible as you like with no consequences to you in the real world; while I, on the other hand, must confine myself to language that I'm willing to wear -- a far more courageous approach. Therefore, you can keep slingin' 'em, and I can keep bestin' 'em and this, because you have so much time on your hands and because it doesn't take me long to respond, could go on forever. It's silly and childish and pointless and, in the end, I, at least, have better things to do. Further, I didn't put those latin phrases in my signature line just for window dressing. There comes a point in every argument wherein veritas nimium altercando amittitur... and we've just about reached it. I mean, when all that's left, really, is your schoolyard taunts and my pointing out to you that's that's all they are... what's left, really?

Well, I don't. Maybe if I were young and unemployed or underemployed or whatever is your situation, I would. But I'm none of those things. I was once like you... but better at it, of course. I've since learned to choose my battles; and to flick away knuckleheads of your ilk like mosquitoes off my arm. Someday you'll be mature, too.

Step out from behind your anonymity and make statements here, in writing, that your co-workers, clients, fellow congregants in your church, your employer... your children -- and their children, perhaps -- can all read, and by which they may judge you, and I dare say you'd be whistling a different tune. Anonymity is a courage maker. But there's no honor in anonymous sniping... especially when it's just for sniping's sake, as is your purpose here. Step up like a man and be known by your words; wear them in perpetuity, like I do; level the playing field by doing that, and we'll just see who's afraid then.

But even then, we'd still have one small problem: The point, whatever it might once have been, fell out of this exchange a long time ago. You wanna' spar? Then spar with me over real issues, using real points in which you really believe instead of these ridiculous, personal "gotcha'" games... like Busho4 does, for example. He and I may not agree, but at least he's got a point! I've come to respect him... and would happily buy the guy a beer, sometime -- and just might, by the way, next time I'm back home. Even Jimmy Clifton's growin' on me... 'cause he tends to actually have a point, and there's actually something there to discuss... even if I disagree with it... which I sometimes don't. Same with Busho4 and others, here.

But here, in this thread, there's only you and your imaginary cat 'n mouse game... and the little woody that playing it apparently gives you.

Step up and be a man. And get a point. And then let's see how it goes. There are lots of other threads around here where, if you really and truly disagree with me about something that's actually substantive, then we can argue about something that actually matters.

And, oh... by the way... posting two and three times in a row to make your points, given their overall tone, reveals that it's you who's all worked-up and in a lather, trying to keep the attack going, and posting your childish, name-calling barbs as fast as you think of them. I'd say that "distraction" is the least of the things to which this thread is driving you.

 

Re: Re: My pal Gregg... keep bringing the ruckus!

Two more votes and Roe will be overturned. When/if this happens, are you saying that people like me should take responsibility for the irresponsible choices of others?

Either get naughty, risk pregnancy, and take responsibility for any resulting life, or abstain from the dirtier parts of life. The choice is that simple.

If you want to reduce unwanted pregnancies, why not offer crack whores a hundred beans and/or a bag of five rocks in exchange for their undergoing tubal ligation?

 

My reply

It only takes a minute.

* Then why did it take so long for you to respond?
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See... right there, you've deluded yourself. None of this is "pissing me off." Never did. Never will.

* Then why does it appear to bother you so much? If that's not the case then you should not have brought it up.

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Adage? Who used an adage? An adage is a saying that sets forth a general truth and that has gained credit through long use. An adage will be recognizable as a common saying. Who adaged?

* Ah my dear obsessive chap, but it IS an old and tired adage and you know it.

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Listen, Sparky... if you'd step out from behind your username (which, I dare say, would significantly moderate your abusive tone) and allow yourself to be identified, as I've done here from the beginning; and if we then were in a face-to-face situation and you were slinging these same (or even better) barbs, my retorts would be lightning fast.

* Ah, the old " identify yourself or be vanquished taunt:
OK
Rafael " Sparky "Sanchez
2041 North Carig Avenue
Altadena, Ca 91001

I work for and have managed an office for the largest independent investment firm on the West for the better part of 21 years . If you ever need advice on managing your assets just E mail me and let me know. I don't always get along with my clients but I am honest and do a good job for them.

I haven't heard the " if we ever meet " taunt since I was in the 5th grade in a working class elementary school in gang ridden Echo park. As one who is apparently masquerading as " employed " by virtue of calling yourself a " Management consultant " ( unemployed so I need to convince someone that I know something ) I would choose my insults carefully when taunting someone is actually IS gainfully employed. ( Read, salary, year end bonus, and on-going fees )

And you apparently have as much time for this as you taunt me for having, since you respond eh?

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Except you, apparently.

* and apparently YOU.
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Those don't take much time, either. As I've pointed-out elsewhere herein, I type a net of around 80 words per minute and am blessed with the ability to pretty much get it down kinda' almost the final way that I'd like it to be the very first time I type it. Oh, sure, I use the edit button now and then (a skill you should learn) when I spot a typo I missed or something like that; but I do very little editing of content once it's typed... so it goes pretty fast. As to doing those other responses before responding here, I take 'em in the order they appear when I search on my username to see what's been posted in since the last time I posted in them. If I get interrupted before I finish (which is very common) then when I come back I do the same thing... hence, some threads in which I've posted and in which I intend to reply slide further and further down and it takes me longer to get to them.

* Oooooh, 80 words a minute? My assistant has you beat but I admit you type faster than I do. Congratulations. At least you have me beat THERE. As for the rest of the stuff ? Blah, blah, blah, if you are so busy how do you find the time for me? I admit, I am not THAT busy.

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This whole thing, between you and me, got started because you're young, and immature, and have an insatiable need to win and get the last word, and believe there's something noble in what you're doing, and are overly stimulated by your testosterone, and think with the little head. Nothing more.

* I'M YOUNG and Immature? Your'e the one lurking and looking at other websites trying to find this girl. Does your wife know about this little secret of yours? Better erase the
" history" button. And yes, I do have an need to win but if this is how you define needing to win then apparently so do you because you keep on replying to me.

And again a mention of my anatomy. First pimples, then my little head? Don't open up another can of worms and another topic that you won't be able to beat me in.

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Ah, yes... the schoolyard taunt: Weapon of choice for bullies with little or nothing left to actually say.

* Schoolyard taunt? You wrote " If we ever meet face to face" Not me. I'll bet you would not have lasted a DAY in my Echo Park schools.

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We could do this forever and neither of us would ever "win." And the reason, in part, would be because you're hiding behind a username and are free to be as irresponsible as you like with no consequences to you in the real world; while I, on the other hand, must confine myself to language that I'm willing to wear -- a far more courageous approach. Therefore, you can keep slingin' 'em, and I can keep bestin' 'em and this, because you have so much time on your hands and because it doesn't take me long to respond, could go on forever. It's silly and childish and pointless and, in the end, I, at least, have better things to do. Further, I didn't put those latin phrases in my signature line just for window dressing. There comes a point in every argument wherein veritas nimium altercando amittitur... and we've just about reached it. I mean, when all that's left, really, is your schoolyard taunts and my pointing out to you that's that's all they are... what's left, really?

* What's left is for you admit that you took this little girl's post just a BIT too seriously.

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Well, I don't. Maybe if I were young and unemployed or underemployed or whatever is your situation, I would. But I'm none of those things. I was once like you... but better at it, of course. I've since learned to choose my battles; and to flick away knuckleheads of your ilk like mosquitoes off my arm. Someday you'll be mature, too.

* Apparently you DO need this because you continue. You see, I admit that I have free time, I admit that I relish in arguing with you and I have NEVER said you are young, or unemployed.
You obviously are not and you know I an not either so why do you continue to make yourself look like a fool for implying as much? And if you really do choose your battles then by your own definition of me right or wrong you do not have too many important battle to fight. You see? I keep on destroying you with your own comments.

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Step out from behind your anonymity and make statements here, in writing, that your co-workers, clients, fellow congregants in your church, your employer... your children -- and their children, perhaps -- can all read, and by which they may judge you, and I dare say you'd be whistling a different tune. Anonymity is a courage maker. But there's no honor in anonymous sniping... especially when it's just for sniping's sake, as is your purpose here. Step up like a man and be known by your words; wear them in perpetuity, like I do; level the playing field by doing that, and we'll just see who's afraid then.

* I already gave you my name and address.

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But even then, we'd still have one small problem: The point, whatever it might once have been, fell out of this exchange a long time ago. You wanna' spar? Then spar with me over real issues, using real points in which you really believe instead of these ridiculous, personal "gotcha'" games... like Busho4 does, for example. He and I may not agree, but at least he's got a point! I've come to respect him... and would happily buy the guy a beer, sometime -- and just might, by the way, next time I'm back home. Even Jimmy Clifton's growin' on me... 'cause he tends to actually have a point, and there's actually something there to discuss... even if I disagree with it... which I sometimes don't. Same with Busho4 and others, here.

But here, in this thread, there's only you and your imaginary cat 'n mouse game... and the little woody that playing it apparently gives you.

Step up and be a man. And get a point. And then let's see how it goes. There are lots of other threads around here where, if you really and truly disagree with me about something that's actually substantive.

And, oh... by the way... posting two and three times in a row to make your points, given their overall tone, reveals that it's you who's all worked-up and in a lather, trying to keep the attack going, and posting your childish, name-calling barbs as fast as you think of them. I'd say that "distraction" is the least of the things to which this thread is driving you.

* Maybe I am SO good at what I do that my fees free me to post . Apparently much like yours must be. I give you credit for building your business and allowing you to leverage your time to have fun. Until you have done this stop claiming that you are superior . I am glad that you like to spar with intelectuals. I don't. Too much work. There. I admit it. I am not an intellect. I like Jazz, wine, cigars, beautiful women, my wife included, Desperate housewifes, ESPN and Porsches. Feel better now? And, the little Woody it gives me? And you call ME young and immature?

My cousin the PhD would LOVE to read this post and make a diagnosis of you. I am sure she would conclude that you are full of insecurities and have little self worth merely by reading your comments about my anatomy not to mention the fact that you got SO angry at Crazy chick because she invaded your space.

Your ball. Signed " Sparky "

 

Re: My reply

There's nothing new here. It's just the same ol' back-and-forth, tit-for-tat silliness.

• "You're a jerk!"
  
  "No, you're a jerk."
  
  "Well, you're a bigger jerk."
  
  "Am not!"
  
  "Am so!"
  
  "Am not! Nannie nannie noo noo!"
  
  ...and so on and so on.

I'll leave to the reader to decide what it all means. And I'll let you have the last word, okay? Will that make you happy?

If you'd like to debate something that actually means something -- preferably in another thread -- then please do so. I'll look forward to that.

Oy.

 

As I expected

I knew that you would have no real response since all you did was insult me and call me names. As the thread shows I did none of the same to you so now you end it with a thinly veiled insinuation that all I want is the "Last Word."

No , that's not what I want. What I want is for you to stop making stupid remarks like I have pimples, I am immature, unemployed, my penis gets hard with all this, I am not a man, I am an idiot if I don't agree with you etc, etc.

Jeeees, you even insulted poor crazy chick who is HALF our age , isn't 1/4 as educated as we are and simply walked into this forum blindly with a silly post. Why not just wish her well in her studies and be done with it? Were you ever 19 years old or were you born old and bitter?

Talk about picking on somebody smaller than you. And you call ME a bully!!!!

If your REALLY think this is about getting the last word then thank you for letting me have the last word.

 

This is getting wierd.......

 

Weird? Who's weird? You calling me weird? I'll tell who's weird. You're the one who's...who are you again?

 

Re: As I expected

I thought you told us that none of that was getting to you.

And she won't be insulted by that?

Oh, yeah... that's all she did. Go back and carefully re-read both her thread-starting post, as well as her other words thereafter; then what I wrote; then think, for a while, about the history of this forum, generally... and then put it all together, fairly, all things considered, and see what comes out.

I stand by every single word I've written here.

Okay, fine. I wish her well in her studies. Whenever, if ever, I need some fashions designed, she'll be the first one I call.

Happy now?

Your chivalric sensibilities are well-developed and commendable, but misplaced. Still, you're entitled to your opinion... really... I mean that. And yes I was once 19; but no, I wasn't anything like her... nor are most 19-year-olds I've ever met... thankgod. And I'm not old and bitter... er... well... I'm not bitter, anyway. I am starting to wonder a bit about you, though.

I repeat: Really and truly carefully re-read her stu...

...oh, you know the rest.

Well, then, dammit... now I've gone and screwed it all up; so please post again so you can have it back...

...and so we can all just move on to something more meaningful. Okay?

Ain't it, though.

 

OK lets do it again

OK, lets do this again...............V e r y....................S l o w l y.

First, how about addressing some of my points about you chiding me with elementary school insults. Lets start there.

I'll try to disect your post so that maybe I can make sense of it. Here goes:

I thought you told us that none of that was getting to you.

*When did I write THAT. It is obviously getting to me, but at least I admit it.

And she won't be insulted by that?

*How is this an insult? I do not have a research oriented terminal degree like some of you do but it is a fact, not an insult. I am 48 years old. if someone says I am 1/2 the age of a 96 year old how is that an insult to me?

Oh, yeah... that's all she did. Go back and carefully re-read both her thread-starting post, as well as her other words thereafter; then what I wrote; then think, for a while, about the history of this forum, generally... and then put it all together, fairly, all things considered, and see what comes out.

I stand by every single word I've written here.

* My point was and still is, why do you care so much about a 19 year old that you do not even know?????

Okay, fine. I wish her well in her studies. Whenever, if ever, I need some fashions designed, she'll be the first one I call.

Happy now?

* That statement is just plain stupid. If that is really how you feel then DO IT and shut up!!!!!!!!

Your chivalric sensibilities are well-developed and commendable, but misplaced. Still, you're entitled to your opinion... really... I mean that. And yes I was once 19; but no, I wasn't anything like her... nor are most 19-year-olds I've ever met... thankgod. And I'm not old and bitter... er... well... I'm not bitter, anyway. I am starting to wonder a bit about you, though

* This has nothing to do with chivalry but thank you for your commendations. Maybe you were an exceptionally different 19 year old but back in my teen years all I ever wanted to do was meet girls. Had I had this type of frum I might have tried it out too. If you REALLY think from my posts that I am bitter then you read me VERY differently than do most other people.


I repeat: Really and truly carefully re-read her stu...

...oh, you know the rest.

* Whatever you choose to write you know that it is true. You have picked on someone much younger than you with far less education who for a variety of unknown reasons has not chosen to fight back. Maybe you intimidate her but I don't know why, you have insulted me in a far more childish manner and with stupid remarks than any 19 year I know so she should be able to battle you as well and in the same language.


Well, then, dammit... now I've gone and screwed it all up; so please post again so you can have it back...

...and so we can all just move on to something more meaningful. Okay?

* I thought you were going to let me have the last word. I will admit that that is all it is about if you will. At last, you admit to SOMETHING.

and, meaningful is relevant.


Ain't it, though.

* Yes, old bitter one, it really is.

Can someone PLEASE set up a poll as to who is really wrong in this exchange? I will live with the results although i am not sure if you will.

Sincerely,

Sparky

 

Re: OK lets do it again

Sparky,
Del Elms is wrong.
Carl

 

Re: OK lets do it again

Of course I wouldn't. That's not how free speech works. It doesn't matter one whit to me how this forum's members would vote. Not one whit! And it shouldn't matter to you, either... not if you value free speech, that is. If every opinion here were subject to a vote, no one would post. It would intimidate and, thereby, chill open and free expression.

Is that really what everyone wants this place to be about?

Free speech and free expression always means nothing to the masses... 'til someone tries to figure out way to chill theirs.

So... okay... Lajazz947... I've intentionally not replied to a single other thing you wrote so that you could have the last word.

Can we agree that that's happened and that we're done now?

Please?

 

Lajazz947

Lajazz974,
I think by accident, Gregg has bestowed, sui generis, to "Sparky". And if it is not already being used, you would, by accepting the dig, essentially be saying," Vescere bracis meis". How ironic? A great ending to a dispute, or humorus post.

Gregg,
Don't fry me, just laugh for a change, and get some rest.

P.S. Notice, just a few lines.

 

Re: Lajazz947

Relax... I'm not upset. I get it.

 

I'm just glad its over

At last!!!!!!!!!!

I have had the last word.

This calls for a Cohiba and a Merlot to the sounds of Miles Davis's " Birth of the Cool " this evening. Thank you for letting me have the last word.

See? There is no facade just pure transparency. I love having the last word and freely admit it. So sue me.

To keep in line with the current lexicon:

Veni vidi vici

And I humbly accept the new name that has been bestowed upon me........Sparky.

 

Re: I'm just glad its over

Just because you have the last word doesn't mean that you're right. (I've convinced myself of this since I would rather stay married. )

 

I know that

Oh Bill,

I know that I am not right for being right's sake.

It wasn't really about that because for as little as Des knew about Crazychick to justify beating her up , I knew at least as little to justify defending her. I just wanted the last word and after Des attacked ME I just had to fight back. I learned all about fighting back as I was growing up.

Nothing more, nothing less. I am sometimes too transparent for my own good but that's just me.

I too have learned to just accept my wife as the last word and let her win.

" A man is not complete until he is married, then he is truly finished"

 

Re: I know that

word

 

Word?

Bill,

Are you telling me that you are from "Da hood" and understand that there the word " Word " means I agree with you?

Funny little thing this Ethnic slang.

Word.