New AACSB “Post-Doctoral Bridge to Business Programs”

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  1. RFValve

    RFValve Well-Known Member

    Thanks for the clarification.
     
  2. Randell1234

    Randell1234 Moderator

    I spoke to an AACSB rep and was told:
    There is a shortage of AQ (Academically Qualified) Professors.
    There is a shortage of PQ (Professional Qualified) Professors.
    There needs to be a certain ratio of AQ to PQ staff to remain AACSB.
    Masters degree holders would be PQ.
    Doctorate degree holders could be AQ.
    The PQ course is one week.
    There is a better chance of getting a position with the AQ because it is more difficult to maintain – you must be published and continue to conduct research and be published.
    The AQ pays better.
    You do not need an RA degree to attend any of the bridge programs as the hiring process is up to the individual school.
    I asked if I could apply with a PhD in Business to become AACSB AQ to teach business. I was told the program was not designed for that but people with business degrees from non-AACSB schools are applying.

    Just thought I was pass this on-
     
  3. RFValve

    RFValve Well-Known Member

    Thanks for this. It makes sense to me. If I have a PhD from NCU the 40K might pay off if I can land a job at a AACSB accredited school. The only problem is that I don't think the schools are going to buy this. In any case, it might be worth exploring in more detail.
     
  4. Randell1234

    Randell1234 Moderator

    Try to contact a school and see what they say.
     
  5. Han

    Han New Member

    Here is how I understand it (the why's to the above).

    Usually there is 2 types of positions:

    PQ: Master's degree and professional experience minimum - making you PQ. This can get you an adjunct position or a full time NON-tentured track. The problem is that you must maintain your emplyoment / professional standards, so taking a full time position is difficult, as over a 5 year span, you have to have contributed to the professional side (a consulting business, etc).

    AQ: You must hold a doctorate degree and publish in the last 5 years. This is easy for a new full time (tenured track) faculty member, as they are attempting to get tenure, but is NOT once one gets tenure, as they usually drop off and the school can not REQUIRE them to publish.

    So both of these poeple sometimes move to neither, which can only be up to 25% of the faculty. To encourage publishings, a professor can get release time, meaning they teach one less class the following semester to encourage publishings - but this ratio is a CONTSTANT struggle.

    Starting pay for a FT non TT is about 60k, FT TT is about 80k here in southern Cali. No summer school (extra stipend for that).
     
  6. Han

    Han New Member

    One other thing - the degree must be from an AACSB school to be found AQ or PQ.
     
  7. Randell1234

    Randell1234 Moderator

    Not anymore with the bridge program.
     
  8. carlosb

    carlosb New Member

    This is incorrect.

    From the AACSB:

    http://www.aacsb.edu/accreditation/papers/AQ-statuspaper.pdf

    Must AACSB accredited business schools and accounting programs hire
    AQ faculty who have earned doctorates from other AACSB accredited
    programs?

    AACSB standards do not restrict the hiring of AQ faculty to those individuals who
    have earned doctorates from AACSB accredited institutions.
    The interpretive
    material supporting Standard 11 states:
    The school should have an overall planning process regarding faculty
    resources. This process should include acquisition and allocation of
    faculty resources….” (AACSB, 2006)

    Emphasis mine
     
  9. Ted Heiks

    Ted Heiks Moderator and Distinguished Senior Member

    RFValve: Trust me when I tell you that it is highly unlikely that a PhD in Mediaeval History (or any other kind of history) is going to be too interested in becoming a business professor (unless he/she has written a dissertation entitled "The History of Accounting Texts in Mediaeval and Renaissance Europe" ... or some equally obscure aspect of the History of Business) and, even then, he/she would most likely attempt to qualify for said professorate based on an MBA rather than a post-doc certificate.
     
  10. Han

    Han New Member

    Yes and no. The AACSB does not require the degree from being AACSB school, but the school does. They are found in the job req (even non-aacsb schools are beginning to require it as well).
     
  11. vcookj

    vcookj Guest

    Thank you for your comment. It reminded me that we had not specified the requirements for admission on our web site (http://aacsbpostdoc.tulane.edu) beyond the general requirements descibed in a link to the AACSB. I've added the following statement to the Admissions page on our site:

    Admission to a specialty in Tulane's Bridge to Business program requires that an applicant have the academic credentials and/or professional experience necessary to qualify for postdoctoral training in the area. Applications will be screened by the faculty teaching in the specialty before admission to the program is approved.

    I also discussed this general requirement with Professor Jevons Lee, one of our accounting chairs, to find out how it would be applied in his area. Here's what he said:

    An application in accounting with a non-business PhD would be considered only if the candidate had an undergraduate/masters degree in accounting. If not, they would be required to complete a masters in accounting, preferably from the Freeman School, before they would be considered for admission.

    While candidates for the accounting specialty take only one seminar in the field, they must complete three seminars in finance theory before they get to the accounting research seminar. We designed the program in this way to insure that accountants have the finance theory needed to conduct publishable research in top ranked accounting journals.

    It's also true of our management specialties (currently Organizational Behavior and Marketing) that holding a PhD in a sister discipline is the minimum requirement for admission to our bridge programs.

    Thanks again,

    Vic
     

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