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Discussion in 'General Distance Learning Discussions' started by me again, Jun 9, 2007.

  1. carlosb

    carlosb New Member

    Attack the messenger, not the message.

    Where is the evidence?
  2. me again

    me again Well-Known Member

    Carlosb, I'm not entirely sure exactly how, why or when I got under Dave Wagner's skin in the beginning. I didn't know Dave Wagner from Adam -- but then he began posting bizarre accusations against others, to include me. Just for clarification, I am not calling Dave Wagner bizarre, which would be ad hominem; instead, I am saying that some of his writings are bizarre, which is not ad hominem. It's safer to stick to issues; and it's definitely civil. Some of Dave Wagner's bizarre postings include:
    • You're the owner of Northcentral University and you're logging on here at to discredit naysayers of NCU.
    • You are a shill and a troll who was sent here by NCU.
    • You are posting at using multiple user names.
    • Anonymous sociopaths, shills and trolls from NCU are "working out their fantasies against society" by using as a platform to do so.
    • NCU's "senior people" need counseling.
    • Etc...
    Regarding Dave Wagner's baseless assertions (listed above)... it's hard to comment on them. After all, anybody with an internet connection can log-on to this website and it would be inappropriate for me to publicly criticize Dave Wagner without knowing his complete history (other than what he has revealed on the internet). I've got nothing against Dave Wagner, although some of his postings are bizarre. Instead of making comments about Dave Wagner, I simply re-post his comments for others to read and to think about -- and then readers can draw their own conclusions. ;)

    In the beginning, I had no idea that Dave Wagner had purchased or obtained an unaccredited Doctorate in Business Administration from California Pacific University. After I learned about that, then it definitely raised some red flags. What would be the motive(s) of such a person to visit and then to make some of the bizarre postings that he has? After all of this negative publicity about California Pacific University, I wouldn't be surprised if their website simply quits working and disappears. :eek:

    Ultimately, all of this is just an internet chat forum, so it should be taken with a grain of salt.
  3. carlosb

    carlosb New Member

    I understand. I believe being a student of Northcentral is all it took. He disrespects all NCU students by calling NCU "NoCentral." I made the mistake of trying to answer what nows appears as a baiting question at the thread listed below. See "How to become a troll in one easy lesson"

    Reading that thread says it all. Guess not caring to take his advice based on his past choices hurt his feelings. Who knows!

    Anyway, I just want people here who's opinions and comments I respect know who really started this. It wasn't you and it wasn't me!
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