More seized SRU material

UJ if only you knew how off and wrong you are.

A. I never came here for your sympathy nor do I care if you ever agree with my ideas.

Gregg I think I will explain what I think about exposing you, the type of the atacks you conduct here is the exposure.

People see , take for example the tread that UJ started about IUFS
look what did I say there and think for a moment because other people read it and they think what did Learner say there that the whole hell broke?

If UJ could state that the letter may not be authentic , why can't I?
Do I need yours or UJ permission to come here and express my views?

YOU and your buddy jumped on that like 2 hungry dogs.

Like it or not I have my own view and understanding of educational systems and market.

There is no conspiracy, no one else has or knows my password not even my wife.

I don't post at other site AED.

In the past when I had a deferent view DR. Bear would correct me,
email to me and we even exchanged some arguments on the site.

But never name calling or any of the things that you attribute to me. I don't remember RD ever acting this way and boy I have exchanged with Steve Levicoff ideas and he gave me at time hard time but never ever they went to accuse me about all the things that two of you do.

I see this as shameful for both of you. Period.

You think my English is bad now you should have seen my posts 3 or 5 years ego, I used to post on AED long time ego and when it went bad I left.

I visit this site many years in the begining I didnt post here only read, then began posting.

I own many Dr Bears guides from 8th to 15th I think editions, also some other books.
Also the fake Herald Crenshaw one.

That it

No agenda, Learnewr has no hiden agenda only his view of things.
And at times I may recognize that i'm in error than I adjust my views.

I'm simple guy and not an entaty. Now I'm so more tired and chance is that my spession and composition of sentances may go bad so I stop.

 

If you can't dazzle them with with brilliance then bury them like DesElms.

Don't worry about my brain pan and answer the question, please.

You are painfully obfuscating.

Like the commendably responsible shots of "bolshevik" and, in too many words, "mafiya."

Stop hiding and say in a few words what you are claiming him to be.

If you are not Chicken Little then you are also not Gerry Spence. Your clincher has no grip.

Just say what it is you are claiming of Lerner.

 

Sorry, decimon. I've dealt with dopey, right-winged, accuse-by-the-very-way-the-question's-asked knuckleheads like you before. You're not going to get away with making it sound like I'm dodging the question. Everyone here -- including you -- has read my various accusations about Lerner many times around here. They're all very specific. Some of them are also very long and detailed, so the reader will know that it's not just idle, shot-from-the-hip, insult with nothing behind it. To summarize all that here is not only unreasonable (especially considering the fact that you can find it yourself by just using the SEARCH function here), but it is, as you and I both know, your attempt to get me all bogged-down in repeating for you here what I've already taken great pains to spell-out in clear and unambiguous terms in many places elsewhere herein. The SEARCH function is screwed-up, but it works at least back to about 14 months or so ago, and pretty much everything I've ever accused Lerner of being has been posted here within that time period.

Happy hunting, and don't bother asking again... or trying to making it appear that I'm dodging. I don't have to post things twice. I don't have to repeat myself just because you're too lazy to use the search function. And, anyway, a bit of it is in a very current thread to which you refer, above; and in which you even posted. So you already know of at least one place where I've been very clear about it. The place for this confrontation upon which you insist is in that thread or threads like it. This one is about SRU stuff. How's 'bout we respect that and not hijack this thread with Lerner stuff, okay?

 

Oooh. Ouch.

Huh?

No. Absolutely not.

But, still... that's really the place that we should be discussing this, don't you think?

Lerner, the last thing in the world that I would begrudge you is your view and understanding of anything. That's not the problem.

Okay, fine. If you'll notice, I've stopped talking about you like there's two of you. If anything -- and I'm not necessarily saying this is true, I'm just saying that if anything, I now believe this more than that there are two of you -- there's probably one of you who fakes bad grammar and spelling and being Russian here, and then goes to other fora and, with perfect English, takes swipes at me and janko (or do you call him "junco") and others. But could we please take this back to the thread to which you refer, and where this belongs?

Uh, huh. Well... I'm not sure I believe you, but could we please take this back to the thread to which you refer, and where this belongs?

Stop making it sound like we don't have good reasons. And could we please take this back to the thread to which you refer, and where this belongs?

Uh, huh. That's nice. So, could we please take this back to the thread to which you refer, and where this belongs?

I'm glad your English is now better. Could we please take this back to the thread to which you refer, and where this belongs?

And some of your posts are terrific. Seriously. But could we please take this back to the thread to which you refer, and where this belongs?

Uh, huh. That's nice. But could we please take this back to the thread to which you refer, and where this belongs?

Judging from the following, apparently not. Still, could we please take this back to the thread to which you refer, and where this belongs?

And I'm trying to find the error in my view of you... or didn't you notice my extension of the olive branch in the other thread (to which you've not yet fully responded, I might add)? That said, could we please take this back to the thread to which you refer, and where this belongs?

Okay. Nighty night. See you, with any luck, in the the thread to which you refer, and where this belongs.

 

How you rate my mental abilities is your business but I am not "right-winged." Left-Right is an arc of tyranny and not the political spectrum.

I am not hunting and I am again asking: What, specifically, is your charge against Lerner?

 

Most accusations have been repeated by multiple others.

The quality of his English swings widely back and forth across the whole spectrum. This has occured even within a single post but usually from one post to another. When confronted with this fact, Lerner's explanations are inconsistent, don't make sense, and insults the intelligence of the reader.

Lerner's first posts were in support of diploma mills. When confronted with this fact, Lerner does not provide a reasonable explanation. He just obfuscates and misdirects.

Lerner's posts here are apparently very similar to someone that posts on AED. The details for this accusation have been ignored by me so you'll have to get them else where.

My overall conclusion of all this is that Lerner is simply a troll that is here to spread confusion and discord.

 

If "troll" and "shill" are reasoned accusations.

Why should he have to explain his see-saw English when it is there for all to see?

The intelligence of the reader is how insulted?

You can't simply proclaim a thing to be fact, Bill. Do you mean IUFS? Hasn't he recanted his judgment of that school? You indicated diploma mills. Are there others?

If obfuscation and misdirection is the measure of a troll then DesElms is Trollo di tutti Trolli.

...apparently...

...similar to...

The familiars of the witch hunter.

A conclusion based on malicious gossip.

 

How is Left-Right an arc of tyranny? I mean, which is more tyrannical?

 

His explanations are so lame that they insult the intelligence of the reader. For example, his explanations have even been proven false by his further posting, they've been inconsitent, etc.

Not true, the only gossip was the AED entity which I have discounted because I no longer read AED and have not seen the evidence.

The troll accusation is based on the other things that I mentioned. If you can think of other reasons that better explain Lerner's very strange behavior besides troll then fine. Share your opinion or not. It is fine with me. You asked a question, I simply tried to answer it.

 

I do not wish to further inflame this thread but I would like to point out that if Lerner would provide his screen name from the old aed then this could possibly provide evidence in support of his case.
Jack

 

In requiring the sacrifice of the individual to some collective.

The end points of the Left-Right arc are taken to be communism and fascism, two monsters bred of the same socialist swamp. Do you really want to place yourself at some point along that arc while calling yourself Liberal, Conservative or Centrist?

Some libertarian once said that communism and fascism are two rabid socialist dogs fighting over one collectivist bone. I guess that would make the center of the Left-Right arc a bunch of non-rabid dogs fighting over one collectivist bone.

Situational.

 

Never mind. I figured it out.
Jack