More news on Excelsior taking NA credits....

Discussion in 'General Distance Learning Discussions' started by gbrogan, Jun 20, 2006.

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  1. Abner

    Abner Well-Known Member

    I wonder how long it will be before COSC and TESC change their credit transfer policy to reflect Excelsiors, or if they will. I imagine they will to remain competitive.


    Abner
     
  2. pugbelly

    pugbelly New Member

    I was just discussing this with my wife last night. My money says TESC and CO will change their policies soon. Otherwise, they'd be passing on a large new pool of students. It wouldn't make much financial sense.

    Pug
     
  3. beholdweb

    beholdweb New Member

    Absolutely!

    At Excelsior, you can transfer in 100% of your credits (assuming they are all accepted). There is no residency requirement whatsoever.

    The "30 new credits" rule only applies if you are seeking a second degree (regardless of where you earned your first one).
     
  4. RobbCD

    RobbCD New Member

    ???????
    My understanding was that all three (Excelsior, COSC and TESC) have no residency requirements. You can transfer in 120 credits into all three of them (or, at least into Excelsior and COSC for sure). That's why they are nicknamed the "Big 3".
     
  5. Abner

    Abner Well-Known Member

    Sorry, I did not make my question clear. I mean the new transfer credit policy in which Excelsior is much more flexible in accepting NA credit.


    Abner
     
  6. RobbCD

    RobbCD New Member

    Oops! Gotcha!;)
     
  7. SteveFoerster

    SteveFoerster Resident Gadfly Staff Member


    I don't expect Charter Oak to change their policy. If they do it won't be soon and it won't be as a response to Excelsior.

    -=Steve=-
     
  8. gbrogan

    gbrogan Member

    Care to share why you feel this way? I'm just curious.
     
  9. SteveFoerster

    SteveFoerster Resident Gadfly Staff Member

    1. We've been discussing COSC and TESC as following suit to be "competitive", but I don't think that maximizing the number of students they have is COSC's objective. If you look at their alumni, they're almost all from Connecticut, even now. They simply don't market themselves in the way that they could to increase enrollment, suggesting they're happy with a slow rate of growth.

    2. They have a different accreditor than Excelsior or TESC. The others are Middle States, COSC is New England (NEASC). I've heard that they get an unwritten special dispensation to be an assessment college at all only because they're a state school, but that they're already seen by NEASC as pushing the envelope.

    -=Steve=-
     
  10. pugbelly

    pugbelly New Member


    Since they already accept NA credit if evaluated by ACE, you think dropping the ACE requirement is such a huge leap?

    Pug
     
  11. pwoodruffe

    pwoodruffe New Member

    Back to Practical Algebra at Penn Foster: Does anyone know the ID title/number for this course? I called Mary Beth and she seemed confused by my asking for this course. She wanted a course # so she could identify it. Also, does anyone know if Information Literacy taken at Penn Foster would meet Excelsior's requirement? Thanks..
     
  12. ShotoJuku

    ShotoJuku New Member

    Its called TECHNICAL MATH 1, part of the enrichment program of the business section.
     
  13. MGKRILL

    MGKRILL New Member

    no information lit at pennfoster doesn't meet the EC requirement
     
  14. MGKRILL

    MGKRILL New Member

  15. Abner

    Abner Well-Known Member


    beholdweb, or anyone who can answer. I need some clarification on this "30 new credits" rule. Here is an example. If I complete my B.S. from CCU, then transfer that credit to Excelsior for a Bachelor's of Liberal Studies, I will need to complete 30 new credits? Or, I suppose I could stop short of completing my B.S. at CCU, then try to transfer in that credit to Excelsior in order to avoid the 30 new credit rule. After receiving my Bachelor's from Excelsior, I could go back and finish the last class or two at CCU for the B.S.

    I hope my question makes sense. Basically, I have been toying with the idea of having a degree in Liberal Studies from Excelsior, and also a B.S. in Management from CCU.

    Please advise.

    Thanks,

    Abner :)
     
  16. Ted Heiks

    Ted Heiks Moderator and Distinguished Senior Member Staff Member

    The 30 new credits rule means you transfer in 90 credits to Excelsior and then accumulate 30 credits worth of CLEP, DANTES, coursework, and get your degree. Could you then transfer your 30 Excelsior credits back to CCU, where you already have 90 credits, and with a few more classes, get the CCU degree, too? It's worth a try.
     
  17. Abner

    Abner Well-Known Member


    Hey Tedmeister!

    Right now I have about 119 credits with CCU and could probably finish up my B.S. in Management by the end of 2006 if I want to.

    In reading some of the other posts about the "new 30 credit rule" with Excelsior, perhaps I am not understanding correctly. I thought it meant that if you have a degree already, then transfer it towards another degree with Excelsior, then you have to complete 30 new credits for the Bachelors at Excelsior.

    If this is the case, here is what I am thinking. Maybe I will hold off a little on my B.S. with CCU, then transfer the 119 credits to Excelsior towards a B.S. in liberal arts with them. In this way I cold avoid the 30 new credit rule?

    Let me know what you think. I think Tylin and Gbrogan have some first hand knowledge of this as well. Anyone, please feel free to chime in.

    Thanks everybody!

    Abner :)
     
  18. Ted Heiks

    Ted Heiks Moderator and Distinguished Senior Member Staff Member

    You might have the correct interpretation, Abner! It is standard operating procedure at most schools, traditional and non-traditional alike, to require for the second bachelor's only the major classes, i.e., 30 new credits. Check their website at www.excelsior.edu .
     
  19. glimeber

    glimeber New Member

    Let me get this straight - one of the Big 3 is going to take credits from non-regionally accredited schools and then apply the same to meet the criteria for graduation? Hmmm........now if my memory serves me correctly there has been more than an outcry by many on this board against any and all insitutions that are not regionally accredited. Believe it is (or was) the opinion of many that to graduate from an instituion that was not regionally accredited (or even to take credits from the same) was nearly criminal. Believe the opinion of many was that if this was the case the degree should be null and void or at least not considered to be credible. Now if another institution that I know of (hmmmm.......who could that be?) were to do the same it would be nearly the end of the world. The finger pointing would be immediate and the outcry would be deafening. There would even be those who would say......see.....those evil for-profits are at it again. Interesting.
     
  20. beholdweb

    beholdweb New Member

    Hi Abner,

    It is very likely that CCU also has a "30 new credit" rule (most schools do). What this means is that, to earn a second Bachelor's, you must have 30 new credits that have not already been transcripted on a previously completed degree.

    120 + 30 = 150 total (for two degrees).

    If you went to Excelsior and got your first degree, and then went back to CCU to get your second degree, you would be expected to earn an additional 30 credits beyond those included in your Excelsior degree.

    If you completed your degree at CCU first, and then went to Excelsior to get your second degree, you would be expected to earn an additional 30 credits beyond those included in your CCU degree.

    The only way around this rule, would be to be 'less than honest' with one or the other of the two schools. Eg, getting a degree from one school and NOT telling the other school about your first degree.

    You would have two degrees. But your transcripts would still only list 120 credits total. Anyone looking at your transcripts would be able to see that you simply utilized the same 120 credits to earn two degrees. I can't imagine that not causing you some problems, or at least a few raised eyebrows.

    Anyway, I'm not suggesting that you intended to do that. I just wanted to clarify how it works for you.

    Hope I have helped.
     

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