Monterrey vs.Charles Sturt

Discussion in 'The Monterrey Institute for Graduate Studies' started by davidf, Aug 18, 2001.

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  1. davidf

    davidf New Member

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    I'm considering Monterrey and also Charles Sturt for a PhD/PsyD in psychology. What I like about Monterrey is that their faculty are all from the US. On the other hand, though Charles Sturt's faculty presumably are from Australia, the school will probally enjoy a better reputation (more resources,etc) If Monterrey is truly Gaapable, both will serve my for my goal of licensure.Both are significantly less expensive than US counterparts (Union,Saybrook,Fielding,Capella,etc)

    For example Charles Sturt's tuition is $3,000-$4,000 vs $12,000-$16,000 for the US programs. It is also completed in 3 years, vs 4 for the US programs.

    What are peoples perception of CS vs Monterrey.
     
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    I'd encourage you to speak with the training director at whatever institution you decide to attend about success in placing students in pre-doctoral internships. You may find this to be a significant roadblock.
     
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    Hopefully, this will give you what you need.
     
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    Hi All,

    Good Point Mr. Williams, and David You’re right on the point regarding
    Flow of communication between you and your mentors, when you start to spend money on international long distance phone calls, chasing them here and there won’t be picnic.
    I too have options with The U k and the South African schools, but I am constrained
    By my concern for easy flow of communication, and of cause other associated costs.
    Please keep us posted.


    Good luck and enjoy your weekend

    Timmy Ade Urging David to consider all associated costs to a foreign DL program, before enrolling in one.
     
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    At least Charles Sturt has full time faculty, MIGS has an impressive list of faculty members with degrees from top universities, the only problem is that all of them are freelances, some of them are not even aware that are in the list. In few words they will list anyone that applies and has good credentials, but the faculty won’t get pay unless there have a student to supervise, so since MIGS has only few students most of the faculty that is listed won’t ever be paid but remain in the list. MIGS has a very good strategy to attract students with no budget.
     
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    The state of Nuevo Leon in Mexico has very relax standards to open a university. It is legal, but even in Mexico where people know the difference would be practically worthless. BTW, when I visited Monterrey Mexico, I happen to cross a university that was advertising its PhD in Philosophy, the university was one room of the size of the typical language institute, no library, no facilities, it would make Trinity College and University look like Harvard.
     
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    Chip - I would like your opinion - if you were just starting out and trying to decide between Charles Sturt or Northcentral which would you chose and why. Thank you, Mary
     
  8. Chip

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    Mmmmm.

    Right now, I think I'd go with Sturt. It's a known quantity, legitimate, respected, established, and definitely meets GAAP.

    Northcentral *could* be a good choice, but I'm not generally the gambling type, and the risk with Northcentral is that they may be significantly delayed in reaching accreditation, or may never reach it at all. (They, of course, downplay this, but it's a very real risk. Union (admittedly, one of the first in the field) took something like 9 years to gain accreditation.)

    IF Northcentral is eventually accredited, you've earned a degree from a school that is RA for a very low cost compared to other RA schools (The risk factor is why the tuition is low.) On the other hand, if they don't make it, you will end up with a degree from another unaccredited school... and, based on what typically happens with other unaccrediteds, the likelihood of their long-term survival without accreditation is not good.

    One other thing: *Technically*, if the degree is earned before the school is accredited, then the degree isn't considered accredited. *in practice*, I've never heard of anyone questioning, say, an ITP or Union degree that was earned before these schools gained RA.

    If you're the gambling type, Northcentral could be a great deal, and with RA, a Northcentral degree might raise a few less eyebrows than a Sturt degree (only because Sturt is in Australia and would require a little explaining). But Sturt won't raise many eyebrows, and the quality and integrity of the school is without question, which is more than can be said for Northcentral and *WAY* more than can be said for CEU/MIGS
     

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