"Master’s Degrees are the Biggest Scam in Higher Education"

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  1. nosborne48

    nosborne48 Well-Known Member

    General observation on the value of the LL.M Tax and MST degrees...these two Master's degrees are very similar in course content but they address different needs. The LL.M. gives lawyers some accounting with, you know, actual numbers and math and stuff. Most lawyers hate numbers and math and stuff but you have to have it to practice tax. Similarly, the MST gives accountants exposure to statutes, case law and regulations and the application of those things to actual fact situations. I gather that most accountants hate statutes, case law and regulations.

    Either way, both groups make good use of the degree whatever it's called. I wouldn't call these degree programs "scams".
     
  2. nomaduser

    nomaduser Active Member

    That depends on the curriculum of your school.
    https://www.quora.com/Is-calculus-3-the-same-as-multivariable-calculus

    10 Examples of Linear Algebra in Machine Learning:
    https://machinelearningmastery.com/examples-of-linear-algebra-in-machine-learning/

    Calculus — Multivariate Calculus And Machine Learning
    https://medium.com/fintechexplained/calculus-multivariate-calculus-and-machine-learning-242b9efcb41c

    "How essential is multivariable calculus for ML?"
    https://www.reddit.com/r/learnmachinelearning/comments/ax8a21/how_essential_is_multivariable_calculus_for_ml/

    "The missing courses" are not limited to mathematics. By the time students graduate from top BS in CS programs, they know how to program in C, C++, Java, etc.
     
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  3. Dustin

    Dustin Well-Known Member

    Yes, machine learning is built on math. No one is disputing that. Are you saying students need Calc III and Linear Algebra courses in their undergrad to be successful Data Scientists? Because there are plenty out there with humanities backgrounds who are doing just fine.
     
  4. SteveFoerster

    SteveFoerster Resident Gadfly Staff Member

    Some were normal textbooks on advanced topics when I was in the coursework phase at Cumberlands, but I suppose I also meant books I've bought like this one:

    How to Write a Phenomenological Dissertation: A Step-by-Step Guide by Katarzyna Peoples
    https://www.amazon.com/Write-Phenomenological-Dissertation-Step-Step/dp/1544328362
     
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  5. nomaduser

    nomaduser Active Member

    It's much better if you study advanced math and learn how to use them in ML...

    Check curriculum of BS in DS programs and see what you have missed:
    https://catalog.drexel.edu/undergraduate/collegeofcomputingandinformatics/datascience/#degreerequirementstext
    https://catalog.northeastern.edu/undergraduate/computer-information-science/data-science/data-science-bs/#programrequirementstext

    What I'm saying is that MS programs often miss some important components from BS programs ...
     
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  6. Rich Douglas

    Rich Douglas Well-Known Member

    Back in my Union days, phenomenology was a commonly used method at Union. A related method is autoethnography. In both, one is describing one's own experiences related to the phenomenon under study.

    At Union I did a traditional deductive study using qualitative methods to test an "arm chair" theory. At Leicester, however, I did a very nontraditional inductive study using qualitative methods to create a grounded theory.

    For those interested in an overview of quantitative and qualitative methods, I highly recommend Qualitative Research & Evaluation Methods by Michael Q. Patton. It is a textbook, but it is terrific at explaining these distinctions. https://www.amazon.com/Qualitative-Research-Evaluation-Methods-Michael/dp/0761919716/ref=sr_1_9?crid=1RT5HN4EF51HI&keywords=michael+quinn+patton&qid=1653611135&s=books&sprefix=michael+quinn+patton%2Cstripbooks%2C111&sr=1-9

    For grounded theory, nothing beats Kathy Charmaz in Constructing Grounded Theory: https://www.amazon.com/Constructing-Grounded-Introducing-Qualitative-Methods/dp/0857029142/ref=sr_1_1?crid=2TL9J10BWJS41&keywords=kathy+charmaz&qid=1653611241&sprefix=kathy+charmaz%2Caps%2C312&sr=8-1

    And if you really want a mind-blower, try Developmental Evaluation (again by Patton), a treatment on how to evaluate unfolding phenomena, processes, projects, etc.: https://www.amazon.com/Developmental-Evaluation-Applying-Complexity-Innovation/dp/1606238728/ref=sr_1_1?crid=1RT5HN4EF51HI&keywords=michael+quinn+patton&qid=1653611321&s=books&sprefix=michael+quinn+patton%2Cstripbooks%2C111&sr=1-1

    And the best book I've ever read on getting through the dissertation (and demystifying the thing) is How to Complete and Survive a Doctoral Dissertation by David Sternberg: https://www.amazon.com/How-Complete-Survive-Doctoral-Dissertation-ebook/dp/B00O0F3N46/ref=sr_1_1?crid=1V2P9EMWO73OW&keywords=how+to+complete+and+survive+a+doctoral+dissertation&qid=1653611429&sprefix=how+to+complete+and+survi%2Caps%2C132&sr=8-1

    Hmmm. Makes me long for being a student again. Almost.
     
  7. chrisjm18

    chrisjm18 Well-Known Member

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  9. SteveFoerster

    SteveFoerster Resident Gadfly Staff Member

    Yep, Creswell was in my lit review too.
     
  10. Rich Douglas

    Rich Douglas Well-Known Member

    On a different note, I was unable to send you a "conversation." Is that by design? I wanted to let you know something in private.
     
  11. SteveFoerster

    SteveFoerster Resident Gadfly Staff Member

    Ugh. For some reason the forum software doesn't allow me to start new PMs or, as you saw, accept ones from others. I've let Chip know, but it seems to be an intractable problem. Just email me? [email protected]
     

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