Masked revolutionaries in all-black uniforms beat American citizens

Discussion in 'Political Discussions' started by me again, Apr 16, 2017.

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  1. 03310151

    03310151 Active Member


    It's not "history", just like in the US, Canada has a black incarceration problem up there in the present too.


    But I really like Canada even though I've only been to BC, Alberta, and Saskatchewan.
     
  2. Stanislav

    Stanislav Well-Known Member

    It does, doesn't it? I'd add Duplessis orphans and the residential schools to the list of topics locals would rather not discuss (however, the usual cop-out on these two is to blame the Catholic Church).
    I have a question to you though: did you realise posting this that Canadian "enemy subjects" internments happened 20-30 years before the very similar Japanese-American internments? In the stunning show of global terribleness, Stalin's ethnic purges policies (similar but far, far worse) land right dab in between. Therefore, I'm not sure I can see what point are you trying to make here, exactly.
     
  3. Stanislav

    Stanislav Well-Known Member

    ...and missing indigenous women, too. Canada is a great country that would be much improved by abandoning the very annoying tendency of Canadians to pretend it's better than it is.
     
  4. me again

    me again Well-Known Member

    Can you please explain? (for those of us who are unfamiliar with Canada)
     
  5. SteveFoerster

    SteveFoerster Resident Gadfly Staff Member

    I've disagreed with you all, and all of you more than once. You playing the victim doesn't change that.

    You're deftly arguing against a bunch of stuff I didn't say.

    What made him president is that the Democrats nominated the one person even more unpopular than he was. And if you want to lose to him again in 2020, you'll keep blaming everyone but yourselves. Personally, I hope you all figure this out, the last thing we need is for me again to be right, but unfortunately at this point I don't even think getting shellacked in the mid-terms will wake you all up.
     
  6. Stanislav

    Stanislav Well-Known Member

    Do not forget: I'm not a Democrat; I'm a Liberal, and last time we won in a rather spectacular fashion. Therefore, I have no political downside pointing out that ultimately, electing Trump is the responsibility of people who voted for Trump. This should be a Captain Obvious statement.

    Also, "a candidate lost because she was unpopular" is a rather breathtaking tautology, don't you think? Root causes of the unpopularity and the loss both are many, including the very stupid "balance" coverage both in MSM and by a self-proclaimed "independent" commenters. Also, holding her and her camp to a standard different from one for her opponent. Types of discourse you perpetuate btw.
     
  7. me again

    me again Well-Known Member

    Stanislav, the point is that it is unwise to label large people-groups with the same stereotypical brush. For example, labeling most or all Russians as being dishonorable or as being ethnic-supremacists is unwise.

    Similarly, it is unwise to label all Ukrainians as being unintelligent, simply for being of Ukrainian descent.
     
  8. decimon

    decimon Well-Known Member


    "Beginning after the attack on Pearl Harbor on December 7, 1941, and lasting until 1949 (four years after World War II had ended), Canadians of Japanese heritage were removed from their homes and businesses and sent to internment camps in the B.C. interior, and to farms and internment camps across Canada.[2] The Canadian government shut down all Japanese-language newspapers, took possession of businesses and personal property. In order to fund internment, property belonging to Japanese Canadians was sold, including fishing boats, motor vehicles, houses, and personal belongings.[1]"

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Japanese_Canadian_internment
     
  9. 03310151

    03310151 Active Member



    Same with the US, in my opinion.
     
  10. 03310151

    03310151 Active Member

  11. decimon

    decimon Well-Known Member

  12. Stanislav

    Stanislav Well-Known Member

    But I still am allowed to label individual people for being condescending pricks, right?

    There are people of Russian descent. I have partial Russian descent. Dr. Ignatieff from the CEU thread directly descends from prominent Russian titled nobility (so he's technically "Count" Michael Ignatieff, in addition to being a Honourable and a Privy Councillor of Canada). Descent means nothing.

    Then there's country of Russia, that prosecutes minorities and waged a bloody war on its own province before handing it to an Islamist thug in exchange for phoney baloney "loyalty". That invaded sovereign countries daring to reject its dictates - with overwhelming support from Russia's population, I might add. There's no "honor" in that.



    Nice passive aggressive ethnic slur, bro. You have a future in the Trump movement. Brush up on Twitter use.
     
  13. Stanislav

    Stanislav Well-Known Member

    The difference is, US is really a superpower and a leader in many ways. Despite current leadership.
     
  14. SteveFoerster

    SteveFoerster Resident Gadfly Staff Member

    Ah yes, your guy was Justin Trudeau, who may be well out of his league, but he's nowhere near as clueless as Trump and at least he doesn't seem actively dangerous.

    Still, you saying you're not a Democrat is about like if our Trump-supporting American posters here said they weren't UKIP -- entirely true, yes, and yet the shoe would clearly still fit.

    You make it sound like she wasn't notoriously unpopular long before she was nominated. But she was, and everyone knew it.

    At the time I thought nominating Trump was political suicide for the GOP and said so. I clearly overestimated pretty much everyone. The problem wasn't that the mainstream media didn't report on all of Trump's insane words and actions, because they did. The problem is that voters simply didn't care how loathsome he was and in many cases (as with me again) believe all sorts of positive-seeming things about him that are totally false in a gratuitously obvious way.
     
  15. Stanislav

    Stanislav Well-Known Member

    It's still moronic to blame me for Trump win, and you know it. It may be bad politics to fault the voters, but it doesn't mean it isn't true.


    Everyone overestimated the public's ability to see through the mountain of smears.

    She is an example of how you don't have to do anything actually bad to be "unpopular". The earliest reason for the dislike was in her case not looking the part of the First Lady of Arkansas. People can be horrible.


    Oh come on. All the free publicity. Kitty paws. Constant lookout for "Trump pivot". Normalizing. Hideously disproportionate coverage of "Clinton controversies". The media made Trump into a plausible candidate. You very well know it.

    ...and this thread is the illustration how it happened. You perfectly played an unbiased media type, choosing to focus on beating up on me and HRC for an equivalent of the "deplorables" supposed gaffe. Ignoring the fact that me again's point is pretty much completely bogus. "Balance".
     
  16. SteveFoerster

    SteveFoerster Resident Gadfly Staff Member

    Not only did I not do that, but scrolling up I literally don't even know what I said that your mind could possibly have twisted into fitting this sort of self-anointed victimhood.
     
  17. TomE

    TomE New Member

    Finally a statement we can agree on
     

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