Masked revolutionaries in all-black uniforms beat American citizens

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  1. me again

    me again Active Member

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    The five videos (below) show:
    - masked revolutionaries (some with red bandanas covering their faces)
    - wearing all-black uniforms at a college campus (Berkley)
    - beating citizens (with fists and makeshift weapons)

    Five videos:
    https://news.grabien.com/story-anti-trump-protesters-savagely-beat-trump-supporters-berkele

    One pic:
    VIDEO: Trump Supporter Beaten With Skateboard By Agitators At Berkeley Rally - Vessel News

    Image of history repeated:
    http://www.historyplace.com/worldwar2/hitleryouth/hj-prelude-fire-jump.jpg
     
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    With the sharp rise in citizens legally carrying concealed firearms, these wanna-be terrorists are eventually going to get the surprise of their lives when they poorly choose their next victims.
     
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    Here in the SF Bay Area, the mainstream media narrative seems to be that the pro-Trump demonstrators were "alt-right" individuals ( a phrase apparently meaning 'deserving of anything that happens to them') who by demonstrating for Trump in Berkeley (the left's gang-turf) should have predicted the response they would generate, so they clearly intended to create a provocation, and hence the fault for any violence was entirely theirs.

    It's ironic (and appalling) that Berkeley was the originator of the 1960's "free-speech movement". The FSM still remains an icon in that city. But in 2017 'free speech' obviously means nothing in Berkeley.

    As far as higher education goes, one wonders whether Republicans and conservatives generally have any ability to speak freely in Berkeley social "science" and humanities classes. My impression is that conservative students typically self-censor, keep their mouths shut and generally speaking try to avoid the more politicized majors. (Most Berkeley natural science departments are fairly unpolitical, even if some individual science professors may privately be.)

    Which makes one wonder about the academic quality of humanities and social "science" departments at universities like Berkeley. Are these prestige departments really academically superior to more open-minded and less doctrinaire departments in similar subjects at less politicized schools? I'm increasingly skeptical about that.
     
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    I watched the videos from the other day. You want to know the truth about racism? Look to the left! All the rich upper-class whites are out trying to make people think the way they do. Look at how many different types of people were out supporting Trump. I saw a black kids get pepper spayed by Antifa, a Mexican guy get hit by an m-80. Normal people are Trump supporters. You have to understand that most Americans have no idea the media is lying to them all the time and just live their lives. I watched a CBS live report that was shot from a helicopter that implied the alt-right was attacking the cops. When in truth the "cops" in riot gear they kept talking about was Antfia in all black.
     
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    From that perspective, Dylan Roof and Alexandre Bissonnette chose their targets perfectly. One might say "the Right" is far ahead at wannabe terrorist tactics... if that "one" was as quick at sweeping generalizations.
     
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    Except they are not: your guy lost the popular vote. Most voters voted against him, even after decades of anti-Clinton smears and help from FBI and FSB. And, oh, his popularity is in the 30ies even while bombing people. Reality has a well-known liberal bias, you know.
     
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    That's not what "most" means. Slightly fewer people voted for Trump than Clinton; neither got a majority.

    Right, because that tired slogan isn't even slightly arrogant. :rolleyes:
     
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    Dylann Roof was "the Right"? Are you sure about that?

    Stanislav, the first rule of shooting your mouth off is to know what you're talking about; show me one person with conservative leanings that has ever burned an American flag;

    [​IMG]

    As for Bissonnette, almost anyplace he chose would have made for an easy target, thanks to the liberal policies in Canada that disarms their citizens and makes them ripe for slaughter.
     
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    Pesky things like the Constitution are to be mocked and disregarded when they interfere with the liberal agenda.


    An arrogant liberal?? Say it ain't so!!!! :rolleyes:
     
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    ...which somehow justifies saying that "normal people support Trump". Gotcha.

    Since I don't run for public office, it is hard for me to care.
     
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    Oh btw, you are wrong here. 46% vote for Trump does mean that 54% voted against Trump, who nevertheless strenuously tries to grab a popular mandate that isn't his. If I wanted to show that old joke being literally true this would be it.
    (and as far as I know, this joke is by Franken, a Clintonite moderate, and mocks conservative MEDIA. For them, anything not 100% their way is "liberal bias"; Trump didn't invent this trope.)
     
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    Yes. But nice No True Scotsman.

    Yet Toronto is the safest megapolis in North America, even with all the Syrian refugees. Thanks for playing, try again.
     
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    Wrong

    That makes no sense whatsoever.

    I'm sure that's of great comfort to Bissonnette's victims. Oh wait, they can't care, they're dead.
     
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    LMGTFY

    So are Roof's victims (despite not living in the Socialist Quebec, where power oscillates between Liberals and (even leftier) Separatists). Two terrorist attacks Trump constantly forgets about in his rants. I wonder why?
     
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    What does any of this have to do with the recent political thuggery in Berkeley?
     
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    "The iron hand crush'd the tyrant's head
    and became a tyrant in his stead"

    -- William Blake "The Grey Monk"
     
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    The exact same would be the case for Clinton, had she won the Electoral -- she'd have claimed a specious mandate despite a majority of popular votes being for other candidates. And why not? It worked for her husband -- twice.

    Look, you know I think Trump is a dangerous imbecile. But that doesn't excuse sloppy reasoning.

    It long predates Franken, and to those on the left I've heard say it, they weren't joking.
     
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    ...and would be a decent retort to statement like "normal people support Clinton". No matter how true it rings.

    Oh sure, let's address my (and only my) rhetoric. It's not like it's double standard or something.

    You know how it sounds? "I think Trump is dangerous imbecile, but pointing it out would violate balance, and won't bring ratings, and the deplorables deserve to be heard too. So let's spend another three hours of airtime talking about the Clinton email scandal.". This kind of thing made a dangerous imbecile the President. Gee, thanks.
     
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    Canada will arrest and inter "enemy aliens," if they believe it is politically expedient to do so. For example, look at Canadian history when Ukrainians were forcibly placed into Canadian internement camps because they were suspected of being "enemy aliens" from 1914 to 1920 (under the War Measures Act).

    Canada rounded up about 4,000 Ukrainian men (and some women and children) who were were then kept in 24 different internment camps and work sites. Their savings were also legally confiscated (under Canadian law). Many of the interred Ukrainians were eventually paroled to perform manual labor on farms, mines and railways. Another 80,000 Ukrainians were not arrested, but they were registered as "enemy aliens" and were required to regularly report to the Canadian police.

    Canada has an interesting history.
     

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