Lower Costs & Improve Quality

can online education do it?

https://www.edsurge.com/news/2019-02-12-can-online-education-lower-costs-and-improve-quality

 

With the use of technology, should costs be dropping? Most online degrees still cost the same as their B&M counterparts

https://www.insidehighered.com/digital-learning/article/2019/07/31/panel-explores-how-costs-and-price-intersect-online-learning

 

For-profits failed at this. Mooc is failing also by jacking up their prices. Greed is just too profitable.

 

the conversation continues: quality and cost

https://www.insidehighered.com/digital-learning/article/2019/09/04/researcher-seeks-clarify-messy-conversation-around-online-cost

 

OPM keeps costs high

https://www.kgw.com/video/syndication/veuer/how-one-industry-is-preventing-online-courses-from-making-college-more-affordable/602-4c3a5bf2-da51-422a-bf9d-7f2eb78338c6

 

I still struggle to see the value that many of the OPMs actually provide, particularly for the more reputable and larger institutions.

 

why online programs often cost more

https://www.forbes.com/sites/dereknewton/2018/06/25/why-college-tuition-is-actually-higher-for-online-programs/#7b9b9d2af11a

 

I wish DI was more well known. The main media is lagging compare to DI. Anyway this quote from the article, has been already made here on DI.
“Online college programs were supposed to be less expensive. With no physical campus to maintain, no limits on class sizes and the ability to recycle content, you'd think they should be. Yet most colleges charge the same or more for their online programs as they do for their traditional, in-person offerings.” As we have been saying opm have been making online education even more expensive.

 

I think that MOOCs are generally unchanged since they were invented. You can still go to EdX, for example, and take a MOOC course for free or pay a few dollars for the certificate if you want proof that you did it. That was the original model and it is still up and running. The problems (if there really are problems) began when schools began using the MOOCs (or MOOC-like courses) to create entire degree programs. That's a different thing altogether.

 

OPMs - the reason costs remain high?

https://www.marketwatch.com/story/for-profit-middlemen-may-be-driving-up-the-cost-of-online-higher-education-2019-09-19

 

People claim they're looking for online schools with dirt cheap tuition, and we could name quite a few of them. But once we start to name them and they're not of the accreditation, tax status, or location that is exactly what they've been told they absolutely have to have or they will have a degree that will mark them as lepers in their community, then the criticism comes out. They really want cheap and best at the same time, not realizing that the combination is generally unrealistic.

I never saw MOOCs as a way that people would get their college degrees, at least not in the way they've been used. I remember that being a hope many had, but I never believed it. I like the idea of something you mentioned some time ago:

https://www.worlduniversity.london

His site is effectively dead at this point because many of the courses aren't even available and he won't update them, but it would be something if someone were to create a similar program but accredited. I believe this would be similar to the concept AsianStew talked about. The accredited part is where the greatest difficulty would likely be.

 

Just looked at this site quickly. Is it basically and unaccredited school that offers degrees using classes taken at other schools? Kinda like a Big3 of graduate school? That seems like a good concept.

 

Most of us DIers are students of the Economics of Education. With the vast amount of data on DI this conclusion is obvious for many of us here.

 

People, people . . . Whenever will y'all learn?

This is a mill. Period. And totally. It's literally a one-man show, by yet another sleazy dude who starts (or "invents," according to its web site) a sham and calls it a university.

University, my ass. In higher education, there is a phenomenon I call "lack of balls," in which people who engage in wishful thinking lack the guts to call a rip-off a rip-off. This, of course, must stop. But, also of course, it never will, which is why many of the folk who come here engaged in their own wishful thinking will continue to get ripped off. And why I, as always, will continue to laugh at them.

 

I didn't think this particular "university" was good. I thought the premise was a good one. I still think so. The Big3 basically allow you to transfer in almost everything at the undergrad level, whey can't you do this at the graduate level. Even more so if the list of schools you're taking classes at is a list like this particular "school".

 

LOL. We know it's not a legitimate school for a number of obvious reasons, although I wouldn't call it a rip-off because he doesn't charge any fees as far as I know. I think the idea behind his project is to prove that anyone can be educated for free or close to it with resources already available to us from different places online. I didn't re-post the site because I thought that particular one was something someone should take as a serious route to a degree or even take seriously as a university. It's the premise that I wanted to highlight.

Exactly.

I believe one of the ideas that went along with this concept in an older thread was to perhaps have a final comprehensive exam. Maybe that's where a chunk of the funding could come from, that and a graduation/diploma and transcript fee. It would all still be tuition-free, and the courses would all be coming from quality schools, even top-quality.

 

Here's another perspective on the cost problem

https://www.insidehighered.com/digital-learning/views/2019/10/04/why-hasn’t-tuition-online-education-tumbled-and-what-will-it-take

 

another reason tuition is so high (sorry, couldn't resist)

https://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/national-international/Drexel-University-Professor-Federal-Grant-Money-Strip-Clubs-Sports-Bars-Philadelphia-562456591.html