KWU, From Diploma Mill to unaccredited

Rich Douglas · Jan 28, 2005

Now that's going to leave a mark.

plcscott · Jan 28, 2005

From Here:

Mr David Gering Says:

Applying for Oregon 'approval' --
For quite awhile, people have speculated on various bulletin boards about why Kennedy-Western hasn't just "applied for state approval" with Oregon, the improper presumption being that we haven't because we don't believe we could be approved.
This is simply false. We are already licensed in Wyoming and abide by rigorous standards to maintain that licensure. Paying $250 for "approval" by Oregon would be analogous to obtain driver's licenses in each state someone drives through.

Further, Wyoming licensure requires KWU and all other licensees to put a great deal more money where their mouths are than does Oregon. KWU must post a $100,000 performance bond and pay a $2,500 annual licensing fee, both a great deal more than the $250 Oregon's "approval" requires. To maintain its license, KWU must provide, among many other things: detailed University mission statement and documentation of how the University supports its purposes and objectives; detailed evidence that
substantive academic and student service-related activity is conducted; documentation of instructional methods used including those for assigning, monitoring and evaluating work; awarding credit, and granting a degree; complete professional credentials for each professor of the University, including verification that at least 50% of professors have Ph.D. degrees, with the balance having Master's degrees, all from accredited universities (KWU exceeds this standard with approximately 75% Ph.D. professors) Further, licensure means that KWU must provide audited financial records and undergo both announced and unannounced state inspections of its offices. Kennedy-Western supports efforts to make diploma mills illegal. In fact, since 1996, Kennedy-Western has been at the forefront of state
legislation in Wyoming. Those efforts have led to new laws that, in turn, has created an inhospitable environment for diploma mills in the state. In sum, this is a great deal of state due diligence and ongoing oversight, which we have always welcomed and never dodged.

Defining who 'settled' the lawsuit --
A number of comments were made to the effect that Kennedy-Western settled with Oregon, clearly implying we doubted our case. The facts substantiate the opposite. KWU filed the lawsuit against the state, not the reverse. The state of Oregon certainly has more resources than KWU to take this case to court if the state believed it could prevail, but the state chose not to proceed. The fact is that the state acknowledged in the settlement that its law needs to be amended. The fact is that KWU didn't withdraw its lawsuit. The settlement is explicit that if the Oregon legislature doesn't amend the law in ways consistent with the settlement terms, KWU will press forward again with the suit. When one examines the terms of the settlement, one is hard pressed to view it as KWU having settled to avoid proceeding with the suit.
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Bill Huffman · Jan 28, 2005

Originally posted by plcscott
From Here:

Mr David Gering Says:

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To be fair (heaven forbid I should get such a reputation but I'll forge ahead anyway) nothing that Mr. Gering says here is untrue. On the other hand, I don't buy his argument that KWU won't part with $250 because of altruistic reasons. It is obvious that KWU can't consider subjecting itself to approval from the ODA simply because KWU is a diploma mill that would obviously and utterly fail the ODA test.

Back on the "fair side" again , KWU may have really lobbied for stronger laws against academic fraud within Wyoming. KWU has a rather unique model amongst the diploma mill crowd though. We mustn't forget that KWU has fled many jurisdictions after stronger laws were passed against academic fraud. It is in their best interest to "assist" the Wyoming legislature to draw the line against academic fraud somewhere between themselves and the rest of the bunch. Afterall, the other states have tightened up their own laws against academic fraud and KWU is running out of places to flee to.

On the unfair side, the statistics presented regarding PhD professor levels at KWU is a total joke. What can that possibly mean when the professors have almost no contact with the students!!!

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