Keiser U - Ph.D. in Criminal Justice & Criminology

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  1. chrisjm18

    chrisjm18 Well-Known Member

  2. chrisjm18

    chrisjm18 Well-Known Member

    I'm no fan of rankings (I'm probably a broken record by now) but we all know that U.S. News is the most referenced college ranking. I'm shocked that Keiser is a tier 1 nationally ranked university (#272), considering its for-profit past, which involved Florida AG's Office investigating the university.
     
  3. sideman

    sideman Active Member

    If I've got my math correct it looks like the difference is 20 months for entry by bachelors vs. masters. 64 months if you have a bachelors and 44 months if you have a masters.
     
  4. SteveFoerster

    SteveFoerster Resident Gadfly

    How is that tier 1? There are only 399 schools on the whole list.
     
  5. chrisjm18

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  6. chrisjm18

    chrisjm18 Well-Known Member

    You got that right. Sadly, they limit you to one course per 8-week term at Keiser. However, I am finishing my coursework at Liberty in approximately 18 months. I will take a minimum of three 16-week courses (12 months) plus my defense which can be scheduled anytime in an 8-week term (2 months). So, I could realistically complete my degree in under 36 months (3 years).
     
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  7. SteveFoerster

    SteveFoerster Resident Gadfly

    So, #272 out of #399 is "tier 1", because "approximately the top 50 percent of schools" are tier 1, and because they no longer split off a tier 2 because "Tier 2 schools are now part of the top half each category of schools which are numbered ranked and therefore there is no longer a separate group called Tier 2".

    I cannot possibly be the only person who thinks that this makes "tier 1" the most worthless, Lake Wobegon designation ever (meaning "where all the children are above average").

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  8. Kizmet

    Kizmet Moderator Staff Member

    C'mon Steve, it's the best ranking system that money can buy.
     
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  9. Michigan68

    Michigan68 Active Member

    I attend Keiser for my DBA and even though I wouldn't change my decision to attend, I wouldn't consider it a Tier 1.
     
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  10. chrisjm18

    chrisjm18 Well-Known Member

    I wouldn't either. Apparently U.S. News classify every school with a number ranking (up to 292) in the top tier and those who rank 293-381 as bottom tier.
     
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  11. Kizmet

    Kizmet Moderator Staff Member

    It's probably like your cable bill. If you pay a lot then you get the whole package. Pay just a little and you get lower Tier.

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  12. chrisjm18

    chrisjm18 Well-Known Member

    What if I don't have cable? :D
     
  13. nosborne48

    nosborne48 Well-Known Member

    USNWR did something similar with law schools years ago. They had been using a four tier structure. Tier 1 was 1-50, Tier 2 was 50-100 and no one really cared about Tiers 3 and 4 though these actually existed. My school was a solid Tier 2 which basically meant that the upper reaches of federal employment and any part of Big Law were forever closed to me. Oh well. The school was incredibly cheap (and it still costs a fraction of average law school tuition).

    Anyway, USNWR combined Tiers 1&2 into the Top One Hundred. Yawn. There are really only two Lists That Matter; the Top Three (Harvard, Yale, Stanford) for wanna-be academic lawyers and the Top 6 (or so) for Big Law and tippy top federal work. In the go-go days, the Top 6 were the Top 15. But then came the Crash when even a Georgetown J.D. was no guarantee of a decent job.

    The legal world suffers from extreme prestige obsession. Below the two Lists That Matter, there's not much to choose outside of cost and location.
     
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  14. nosborne48

    nosborne48 Well-Known Member

    Sorry, should have said "Top 14", not that it matters much.
     
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  15. copteacherz

    copteacherz New Member

    What would a residency for CJ entail?
     
  16. Kizmet

    Kizmet Moderator Staff Member

    I think it's called "going to jail."

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  17. chrisjm18

    chrisjm18 Well-Known Member

    It has less to do with the discipline and more to do with the nature of doctoral programs.
     

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