Judge orders parents not to expose children to"non-mainstream religious beliefs"

DTechBA · Jun 23, 2005

Urban tenements

Originally posted by Ted Heiks

Urban tenements in PRE-industrial times, my friend? I think if you review my original argument, I said that: (a) it was the industrial regime that took fathers (and oftentimes mothers, too) away from their families during the workday; (b) prior to the industrial age, i.e., during the more agrarian era, families worked together; and (c) the notion of families working together could be revived if the rise of cottage industries caused the majority of people to own some kind of business rather than working for large corporations.

BTW - I never said that life was beautiful all the time (except maybe on the funny farm, with trees and flowers and chirping birds and basket weavers that smile at you as the twiddle their thumbs and toes).
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Urban tenements occured in industrial as well. My post is equally applicable either way. You contended in your post that people would store their food in a store room. City dwellers generally had "A" room to live in. They would have to buy perishable goods and consume them almost immediately. Today, in Europe, they have itty bitty refrigerators and still pretty much shop for bread and meat every day or 2.....

Cutting ice and distributing was an industry in pre-refrigeration days. The modern refrigerator put a lot of people out of work. Dang technology put somebody else outta work!
Ice cutting pictures and information on "ice age" refrigeration:

http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://www.dupont.com/suva/na/usa/images/1910_icecutters.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.dupont.com/suva/na/usa/about/history_timeline.html&h=113&w=100&sz=6&tbnid=WnYUwnOnOG4J:&tbnh=81&tbnw=71&hl=en&start=66&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dthe%2Bice%2Bcutters%26start%3D60%26hl%3Den%26lr%3D%26sa%3DN

decimon · Jun 23, 2005

Originally posted by nosborne48
Ice wasn't made in those days; it was collected in winter by being cut from frozen ponds. It was then stored in icehouses, insulated with sawdust or similar, and sold from ice wagons.

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Thanks. I should know that as I remember iceboxes but I couldn't recall what was done.

nosborne48 · Jun 23, 2005

The first ice makers consisted of a vat of water into which was plunged the heart of an IRS agent. Froze right up!

Ted Heiks · Jun 23, 2005

Re: Urban tenements

Originally posted by DTechBA

Urban tenements occured in industrial as well. My post is equally applicable either way. You contended in your post that people would store their food in a store room. [/url]
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Again you misrepresent my argument. I mentioned most people living on farms, working together as families, and having store-rooms on the farm in PRE-industrial times. YOU mention urban tenements, which occurred DURING industrial times. Keep your chronology straight.

Ted Heiks · Jun 26, 2005

Re: Look up history

Originally posted by DTechBA
I don't know what history you took.
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And which history classes have YOU taken, beyond any freashman requirements?

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