IUFS application to Ministry of Health

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  1. Lerner

    Lerner Well-Known Member

    http://members.cox.net/vbnguyen/tem...thdocument2.pdf

    This document is a notification by the department of professional training and development of Human Resources of Ministry of Health of Russian Federation that in 2004 IUFS submitted
    its main medical programs and that they are in processing.

    Moscow


    Learner

    This is in no way to document that they are accredited or gained such an approval.

    This is not an advertisement of IUFS or promotion.

    Simple reporting of the fact and producing a supporting document.

    Please note that only licensed institutions may apply.

    I don't have any direct contact with them and cant authenticate it.

    To me it appears real.

    I copyied it from another site

    Running to a bunker
     
  2. Bill Huffman

    Bill Huffman Well-Known Member

    HAHAHA This place is a total bogus joke. Give it up, it will always be a joke and you're just making yourself part of the joke by starting threads like this. :rolleyes:
     
  3. Lerner

    Lerner Well-Known Member


    How about some substance?

    I would like to know if this is real.

    If granted recognition is it equivalent to US AMA?

    Or this is all bogus and this document is forgery and has no value?

    I don't know but maybe some one who knows will comment
     
  4. BobMaluk

    BobMaluk New Member

    Yes!
     
  5. Rich Douglas

    Rich Douglas Well-Known Member

    Please stop promoting this diploma mill.
     
  6. Lerner

    Lerner Well-Known Member


    I'm not promoting.

    I'm asking qiestions. It may be seen as indirect promotion but if
    this is bogus than how good is this promoton.

    I don't advocate to go there.

    I did send letter to the Ministry, to find if this is real or not.

    and just out of curiosity.
     
  7. kcfile

    kcfile New Member

    Before we determine whether the institute is a degree mill or not, we should prove its documents posted on the website being unreal and sell degree without coursework submitted. So, any evidence?

    Furthermore, for my interest, anyone knows what EAI is as I posted in another thread but none can reply yet! http://www.bridgeworld.org/
     
  8. Stanislav

    Stanislav Well-Known Member

    Your link does not work.

    But even if it did, hello! So they APPLIED to something, big deal! They get a silly receipt to post on the Web so you could ask your questions and maybe confuse someone (wich may or may not be your intention - it doesn't really matter). Mission accomplished.

    I mean, for christssake, it's a Rev. Dr. Knyaz Speedy Chicken the Curtain Rod school!!!! And, whether you are avare of it or not (and I think you are), you are PROMOTING it by posting these threads. You do it over, and over, and over again and act all offended when it annoys someone. Stop it!
     
  9. Lerner

    Lerner Well-Known Member

    Additional document I will be reviewing is their application to Ministry of Education of Russian Federation for accreditation and the status.

    I am interested to see if this is political now.
    That if I don't loose my posting permision to this board.

    If i discover that this documents are fake I will never post about this entity.

    Learner
     
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  10. Stanislav

    Stanislav Well-Known Member

    Evidence of what? So far, any documents they posted were of little to no value, and they vere extremely misleading and veasely trying to imply otherwise. If Lerner described the paper in question correctly, it matches the profile perfectly.
    And I can assure you Rev. Eagle is NOT a Prince of Russian Royal family.
     
  11. Lerner

    Lerner Well-Known Member


    I do this out of simple curiosity.
    and yes it's not a final approval.

    just copy the link

    http://members.cox.net/vbnguyen/temp/healthdocument2.pdf

    Ok i will try not to post about this here.
     
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  12. Stanislav

    Stanislav Well-Known Member

    Application just means they are able to fill out some form and maybe pay a fee. Haven't you reported that the applied long time ago and were denied, and then reapplied? All the while posting lousy lies on their website?

    Oh c'mon! You are posting on this board long enough to know this sounds EXACTLY like a standard mill speak. There are whole discussion boards yapping about DI's 'censorship'.

    So, what, posting "license" and calling it "accreditation" didn't do it for you? Or their extremely fishy medical devices they promote? Or the Cosmonaut chief? Or credentials of other people involved? Or the College of Homeland Security they were associated with? Their other associations? Fake accreditations? Fake Duma site? Fake Academy of Science site? ???
     
  13. Rich Douglas

    Rich Douglas Well-Known Member

    If a diploma mill posts a bunch of b.s. on its website, it isn't necessary to disprove every single thing in order to draw a conclusion about its real status and operations. If that was the standard, they could just keep putting up new b.s. forever, saying "prove it isn't true" all the way. It's not necessary.

    As Bill Dayson aptly puts it, it is up to the school to demonstrate its legitimacy. IUFS fails so many times that it isn't really necessary to continue disproving its absurd claims.

    Please stop promoting this diploma mill.
     
  14. bullet

    bullet New Member

    insult

    A man with a curtain rod (like Uncle J) found........claims to be family of Royal Family of Russia?

    Claims...............................

    Claims...............................

    All an insult to the Russian Federation and an affront to our intelligence.
     
  15. uncle janko

    uncle janko member

    IS REDICULUS (SIC)!

    Shill! Shill! Shill! Faux naivete! Agent provocateur!

    Is uses spell check on MY posts (sheesh!) and writes is in busted English very similar to that of open shill for IUFS is on other website.

    Is to go check it out, comrade.

    Is to thank also is Mr Peter French for insight is on other shill thread.
    Spasibo, mate.
     
  16. Lerner

    Lerner Well-Known Member

    Re: IS REDICULUS (SIC)!

    UJ

    When I Use my heand held device I don't use spell check, when I'm at a PC I do use spell check.

    This is not personal and calm down.

    Stanislav,
    this is what they had to submit.

    http://members.cox.net/vbnguyen/tem...thdocument1.pdf

    I keep my cool and simply after facts not alegations, acusations and other BS.

    So far I agree with the fact that they are 90% lie I just noticing changes and report them.

    I understand that you don't have to like it.

    As mentioned before I will conclude this here at this time.

    I don't come here to make you upset or iritate you with my posts about IUFS.

    Good or Bad

    Simply after you opinions and I value your input.

    To bad that the topic is such.

    Learner
     
  17. Lerner

    Lerner Well-Known Member

    The person on the other site and I are not the same person.

    The Shill on the other site - well I use his info some times and he is very objective in some ways.

    I do know him personally we have work relationship and I had lunch with him when he was in town.

    He is from Odesa I'm from another town in former USSR.

    He is older guy and partner in business with ties in Russia.
    I think something todo with hotels.

    He cant post on this site and was banned from Degreeinfo.

    He used to come I will ask under what name.
     
  18. uncle janko

    uncle janko member

    Calm? I'm calm. Disgusted and amused, but calm.
     
  19. Lerner

    Lerner Well-Known Member

    Well we share the same feelings.

    I'm as well Disgusted and amused
     
  20. Lerner

    Lerner Well-Known Member

    Rich,

    I agree with what you say.

    Why do you think that I promote them?

    If I posted for example XYZ entity moves to another state and pose a question to say why are they doing this to get forum members to respond is this reporting or promoting?

    But some members here are simply hungry to attack shills.
    Many shills left or banned so they jump on my posts " Dinner is here"

    This post was so revealing in many ways.

    Kill the message if cant kill the mesanger.

    You underestimate the readers ability to analyse objectivity of some persons here.
     
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