It's Later Than Xi Thought!

Discussion in 'Off-Topic Discussions' started by nosborne48, Jan 17, 2023.

  1. SteveFoerster

    SteveFoerster Resident Gadfly Staff Member

    May the efforts of nativists to undermine this continue to fail.
  2. LevelUP

    LevelUP Active Member

    Bribing people should work.

    Just increase the tax deduction to $10,000 per child, and we might have another baby boom.
  3. Rachel83az

    Rachel83az Well-Known Member

    Why bother? Migration solves the problem.
  4. nosborne48

    nosborne48 Well-Known Member

    No, probably not. The Chinese government is offering cash grants without much success.
  5. datby98

    datby98 Active Member

    Maybe a century later China could be a country of immigrants, who knows.
  6. nosborne48

    nosborne48 Well-Known Member

    That’s where the Qing Dynasty came from.
  7. Rich Douglas

    Rich Douglas Well-Known Member

    Yes, the single-child policy was meant to curb population growth, even cause it to decline. But they made a huge cultural miscalculation.

    In China, boy babies are much more valued than are girl babies. Thus, when a couple had a boy, they followed the policy and stopped there. But if they had a girl, they often violated the policy by having a second child. Again, when it was a boy, they stopped. Also, newly expecting parents would often abort fetuses destined to become girls.

    The result of this is a huge imbalance between men and women, estimated by some to be as large as 1.2 - 0.8. Quite simply, there are huge numbers of men who will never be able to find a wife. For them, lifting the 1-child policy is, obviously, irrelevant.

    Then there's the women's movement. Chinese women are afforded more opportunities for careers and, as we've seen in the West, this has a downward impact on birth rates.

    What about migration? Well, you're asking a highly insulated, xenophobic society to become welcoming to outsiders becoming Chinese. As we see in Japan, that's a big ask.

    If a growing population is good for China, then things are not good for China.
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  8. nosborne48

    nosborne48 Well-Known Member

    I recommend to all China watchers that you read the online propaganda sheet the Global Times. I don't find the piece still posted (itself an interesting phenomenon) but a few days ago they were saying "it's no big deal" but "the Party is doing" all these wonderful things to counteract the population decline. My conclusion is that they're admitting that it IS a big deal and the CCP knows it.
  9. nosborne48

    nosborne48 Well-Known Member

    I used to recommend the South China Morning Post as well but since the Crackdown, that paper is not so useful anymore. They mostly repeat the Global Times' official Party line though often in better English.
  10. Rich Douglas

    Rich Douglas Well-Known Member

    If they don't admit they have a problem, they do.

    If they DO admit they have a problem, then they don't have a solution.

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