International Education Evaluations and ENEB

Hello!


Had that in my mailbox... https://myiee.org/university/eneb-european-business-school-of-barcelona%C2%A0. Not interesting for me, but maybe for someone else!


Best regards,
Mac Juli

 

I just received the email about this partnership. They are having a virtual meeting about it tomorrow. I think ENEB is trying to not only publicize recognition/validation of studies through IEE but also eliminate the need for students to have to wait and pay for the Isabel I diploma(s). I'm not sure if IEE's evaluations will remain the same or not but my guess is they will state that ENEB is the primary institution which is certified by Isabel I that will then be equated to regional accreditation.

 

I went with IEE for my PhD from UCN evaluation and what I did was have someone from UCN send them a digital copy of my documents and IEE accepted those as authentic. I wonder could I get around the verification fee by having ENEB send those documents to IEE whenever I finish up at ENEB. IEE should offer some type of discount to me as a returning client.

 

That is so cool you got that system to work for you. You got a UCN PhD and an evaluation stating RA equivalency. Didn't pay a lot. You may never have got the Azteca doctorate but then who cares. The degree gods were smiling on you.

 

What is the equivalence that IEE gives to an ENEB degree? I believe ECE gives a Bachelors degree equivalence that is a very good evaluation as it allows you to continue to a Masters degree.

 

Congratulations for this achievement. Next is a post doctorate degree!

 

Indeed. Perhaps a Russian 'Doktor Nauk.' Удачи! (Good Luck!)

"Doctor of Sciences (Доктор наук / Doktor Nauk) is the highest academic degree awarded. Although the program has no fixed duration, in practice it generally requires 5 to 15 years of full-time study following the Candidate of Sciences program. Doctoral programs have no course component and focus solely on research."

@cacoleman1983 Карлтон Коулман, доктор наук - Carlton Coleman, Doktor Nauk. Pretty impressive, no? Might get you a job in the Russain Space Program, at Spaceport Baikonur, in Kazakhstan. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baikonur_Cosmodrome

From here: https://www.alberta.ca/iqas-education-guide-russia

 

My understanding is that after the partnership between ENEB and WES ended, ENEB established a partnership with IEE and someone mentioned they would start evaluating ENEB as a Bachelors degree. I’ve emailed IEE to confirm rather or not this is true but I am waiting for a response.

I’m thinking that since there is a delay for the Isabel I diplomas, some may just submit ENEB material without Isabel I diplomas and get the Bachelors equivalent. Those who wait and receive the Isabel I diplomas for submission to IEE may still get the graduate certificate equivalent. We won’t know until someone uploads or confirms any changes. ENEB is charging separate fees for Isabel I diploma with several weeks delay of receipt.

ECE still equates ENEB to a Bachelors even with the Universidad I diploma but with a new policy. ENEB is no longer evaluated but just the Isabel I diploma with S grades representing PASS for each subject so no grades or GPA. SpanTran evaluates ENEB/Isabel I as “completion of a graduate program” with transfer credit recommendation. No exact equivalency was given for degree or accreditation.

 

Sorry. Link to Baikonur, Post #8 should be https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baikonur_Cosmodrome
Dang the timer - again.

 

Jobs on USAjobs.gov for those working or seeking to work in the US federal government do allow pre-accredited university degrees to count for academic credentials. This would not be beneficial in my case as I now have both a regionally accredited Masters and the foreign equivalent regionally accredited Doctorate but had I not had any of these, the MRS degree from Nations University would have helped. It may still help in some instances like chaplaincy and/or teaching courses in religion or philosophy at either a non-accredited or nationally accredited university. Considering I struggled to maintain the minimum 3.00 GPA, earned it more than 12 years ago, and am now a secular humanist, I wouldn't use it for any of that unless it is applied in a secular community.

 

I don't know... as said, it's not interesting for me (I live outside the US), but maybe someone here does?

 

Thanks, I believe it was mentioned that IEE and ECE might give a Bachelors equivalent with no GPA that is a problem if you want to use it to gain access to a Master's degree. Validential will recognized it as a Masters but it is not NACES or AICE recognized. My main interest is for my son, he does not have a bachelors but I saw that some people used the degree to get into a masters degree. Can the validential evaluation be used to gain admission into a Master's degree program?

 

Just to confirm and let everyone know. I contacted IEE and this is what the team lead told me.

"Thank you for your inquiry. While IEE does have a partnership with ENEB, that does not change how we view the Títulos Propios issued by the school. Títulos Propios master's degrees are university-specific programs that fall outside of the formal academic structure in Spain and are not recognized by the Spanish Ministry of Education, nor do they grant access to doctoral programs. For these reasons, IEE considers Títulos Propios degrees issued by recognized degree-granting universities to be equivalent to graduate certificates in the US, including those issued by ENEB / Universidad Isabel I."

 

Thanks, many universities in the US will admit a student into a masters degree with a graduate certificate but also with an unaccredited bachelors. I am not sure if something like a religious unaccredited degree with an ENEB masters would help but the idea is to find a cheap solution to get into a masters degree.
Some UK schools also admit you based on age but since I am in Canada, American is more accepted in the market as many people use American degrees here.

 

For an adult makes more sense to do a masters degree that needs only 30 credits plus any qualifying credits because it might take only 2 to 3 years to do it. You can find a good masters for under 10K but bachelors from a good school might go for 40 to 50K for a traditional university.
I agree that admission is negotiable but hard to get admitted with a high school diploma into a masters degrees. Most for profits have accelerated bachelors but they sell for a small fortune.

The ENEB can be a good deal if evaluated as a bachelors. At least one member mentioned that got admitted into a masters with it so for this reason I asked.

Validential gives Canadian evaluations but I think these are not official. Someone mentioned WES Canada giving ENEB the equivalent of a masters degree but this could be just a fluke.

 

WES has stopped evaluating ENEB altogether which is why ENEB moved over to IEE. This includes WES Canada as well although they are still evaluating other partners under Isabel I. One or two things likely happened. Either WES found out about the 50 question exam option or there were several complaints about the unaccredited WES evaluation for those in the USA.

 

Also the price tag. The reason why I thought about ENEB is because I got a coupon for a masters for 40$. WES makes millions with evaluations for credit transfer to US institutions. Once everyone knows that they can get 30 credits for 40$, they will have thousands of evaluations and their partners charging 600$ a credit will not like it and might cut WES as an evaluation partner.
For the Canadian perspective, there is also the risk of immigration scams. A masters gives your higher points for immigration so you can have companies selling services to take exams for you and get you the masters just for points or work permit.

There is a lot of liability with a $40 degree and makes it vulnerable for exploitation. As for quality, I only took one course with them and it was pretty much the same as the for credit courses that I have taken at courseera. But because it is online and cheap, I can see a lot of international services using it for immigration scams so WES probably saw a lot of risk there.
The same for Azteca and UCN, as many of the international partners are companies with little supervision from Azteca, there is always the risk that they sell it if it works for immigration purposes. There are people paying 40K just to get to the US border, I can imagine people paying that much for a PhD from Azteca or UCN if this secures them a work permit or immigrant permit.