If you worked in HR...........

Discussion in 'General Distance Learning Discussions' started by b4cz28, Feb 24, 2011.

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  1. b4cz28

    b4cz28 Active Member

    Of course it sounds like a mill....its just my luck. The school is taking all my credit (even Nations U) is RA and low priced(very low). Has the degree I have been looking all over for, but they may have the worst name ever!!!!!

    Only $375 per a 3 credit RA class. I might even qualify for another 20% off as well which make it only $300.
     
  2. Randell1234

    Randell1234 Moderator

    I say just go for it!
     
  3. ITJD

    ITJD Active Member

    If I worked in HR I'd be ignorant of most higher education differences between one degree and another unless I was working at a large enough or prestigious enough place where we only recruited from name schools and had been burned by scholars with degrees conferred via a table napkin.

    I had to tell my HR rep not to send me resumes from ITT Tech grads because she saw the commercials and thought it was a good school as a result of the marketing. Mind you that I work for an average company, this rep had 12 years of experience in HR and we're considered a successful and good place to work.

    I do think we all get caught up in talking about outlier situations simply because we're in the know and perceive things differently.

    As to what school is right for you, can't say. I know what's right for me knowing what I know. Sometimes I think the people who don't know any better have it better off.
     
  4. TEKMAN

    TEKMAN Semper Fi!

    Speaking about the name, here is a mazing one iGlobal University. The institute is approved by the State of Virginia, unaccredited.

    I assume the lectures are delivered via iPod, iPad, iPhone, iMac, and all the "i" products.
     
  5. SurfDoctor

    SurfDoctor Moderator

    I agree, "Global" sounds like a mill. The question is, will the people you want to work for know about that? Would they care? I don't know.
     
  6. Randell1234

    Randell1234 Moderator

    I would never take the, “if they graduated from XXX do not send me the resume”. There are many talented people who graduate from all types of schools. I spoke an HR person and her approach, which I like best, was one of a holistic view. If the person took classes at night or online to improve themselves while working full time and supporting a family, she held that in higher regard then someone that went to a “better school” because they were told they needed to go there.

    She also went on to say that she knows HR people and managers that discriminate against online degrees, against degrees earned online from B&M school, and against people that took 4 years to earn a bachelors degree from an ABET school while going to class (they should have done it in 3 if they were really smart).

    No matter what, you cannot please everyone all the time. Do what is best for you and hope the best. Do what is in your control and do not worry about what you can not control.
     
  7. AUTiger00

    AUTiger00 New Member

    Out of curiosity, did she happen to be someone that earned her degree at night/online while working full time to support a family? I think people tend to support those that they have most in common with. For instance, if I was a hiring manager I know I would be more inclined to interview someone that went to Auburn than someone that went to the University of Alabama (not because I have more in common with the Auburn alum, it's just that we all know Bama grads are a little slow).
     
  8. Randell1234

    Randell1234 Moderator

    I do not think she did but I am not sure.
     
  9. ITJD

    ITJD Active Member

    That's cool that you feel that way. I can appreciate it, but within my particular context, having the choice between ITT tech or Boston College, ITT Tech or Boston University, ITT Tech or Northeastern University, ITT Tech or Suffolk University.. I'll take any of those over ITT Tech. I'm sure all you'd need to have is a few instances of interviewing questionable candidates from a particular school before you'd develop a similar opinion of that school.

    See, I see it differently. I see it as a person who failed to do things right the first time, went "Oh Crap I need an education in order to take better care of myself and my family" and went back to school where they had to because of the circumstances.

    Why do I see it that way considering I'm a non-traditional learner? Because that's exactly what happened with me. Any "oh you busted your rear end" statements are glad handing it. The person got the degree with the level of effort required because they messed it up the first time when they could have done more work at a better school.

    Sometimes I admire the person for working to correct the situation, but I don't necessarily need people that can fix their own f ups after the fact for all the jobs I hire for. Sometimes I need people that don't f up when given good options. This position is very context specific and not at all politically correct given what I perceive to be the majority on the forum, but I'm discounting my own success in the process so I don't see an issue stating it.

    ..and I'd say those are areas where the term discriminate is technically appropriate but the intent of the situation would be better served by the word "choosy"... It's their right to cull the field however they choose based on the fact that HR reps get flooded with hundreds of resumes for each open position these days...

    Absolutely great advice.
     
  10. Randell1234

    Randell1234 Moderator

    And I do agree, it all depends on the competition and industry.


    I don’t really agree with this. Different people face difference circumstances in life. I know someone who lost their parents when they were just graduation high school. They needed to get a job to care for their younger sister and himself. When she got older (10 years later) he returned to school to get a degree. Not everyone that followed the high school to college track is a screw up that is trying to “fix it”. I went high school, tech school drop out, Army, college (15 years after high school). Where would that fit?
     
  11. Randell1234

    Randell1234 Moderator


    I did not mean discriminate in a negative sense. I really meant being selective.
     
  12. ITJD

    ITJD Active Member

    Probably about the same place that a guy who:

    1. Lost his mom at 4 and his dad at 8
    2. Went to military school until age 17 when the estate ran out.
    3. Did the musician thing until Nirvana came out.
    4. Did the Northeastern thing for 10 years swapping degree programs four times and getting a degree in history.
    5. Then worked in IT because that was a horrible decision... before getting gears on straight and needing to support a family.. then
    6. Went to WGU
    7. Went to UMass.

    Point is that everyone's a little messed up. Some of us are a lot messed up. We all recover at some point but that doesn't mean we didn't mess up and have to fix it by any means possible to get where we need to go. Whatever work we had to do to get there is appropriate to the level of messed up we were. Therefore:

    1. I don't discount the work needed to get where people are going. It's impressive.
    2. But those same people, self-included, f'd up and it's not anything to congratulate them for or grant them special status because of. If they get where they're going; it could have been done with less hassle.
    3. I am a f up. Simply put. You probably are too, to some degree.
     
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  13. Randell1234

    Randell1234 Moderator

    You know...something came to mind as I read this. I was talking to a friend a few years ago as we were both moving up the ladder in GE and he said, "imagine where we would be today is we didn't screw up so much when we were younger". He was a bit more colorful but you get the idea. Thanks for the warm welcome...I am home! :arms: :arms: :arms:
     
  14. Abner

    Abner Well-Known Member

    That's a good deal for RA. I say go for it!

    Abner :)
     
  15. Ted Heiks

    Ted Heiks Moderator and Distinguished Senior Member

    The name Global University (formerly known as Global University of the Assemblies of God) was meant to distinguish their DL school from their more regional on-ground universities.
     
  16. Ted Heiks

    Ted Heiks Moderator and Distinguished Senior Member

    Or how about these?

    American Intercontinental University
    California Intercontinental University
     

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