Idaho acquiring University of Phoenix

Discussion in 'General Distance Learning Discussions' started by JoshD, May 19, 2023.

  1. sanantone

    sanantone Well-Known Member

    From what I've seen with the other buyouts, the schools have maintained autonomy, and their discount and alternative credit programs haven't changed.
  2. sanantone

    sanantone Well-Known Member

    Every time I post research on the strong correlation between 4-year for-profits and poor outcomes, no one rebuts with research that has found the opposite to be true. Of course, one can always point to exceptions, but the exception doesn't make the rule. Do you have research showing that for-profits and nonprofits spend their revenues similarly? There's research showing that they don't.
  3. Rich Douglas

    Rich Douglas Well-Known Member

    Depends on what is meant by outcomes. Usually, this term is confused with the proper one: outputs. Also, what is really ignored is another factor: inputs. For-profits tend to be much more flexible in terms of enrollments, accepting a lot of people that might not be accepted elsewhere. You could see this as deceptive--taking people's money who aren't going to succeed. But many do, rendering another interpretation: open opportunity.

    Here are the 4 main components of a production:


    Accreditation is an examination of the second stage: Processes. Yes, it's worth examining the other three, but it is the academic process that matters most when evaluating a school, not the other elements over which they have much lower control. We can argue all day long about open admissions (Inputs), graduation rates (Outputs) and graduates' salaries (Outcomes). But we can certainly hold schools responsible for how they educate (Processes).
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  4. sanantone

    sanantone Well-Known Member

    I shared research a couple of times that looked at students with similar socioeconomic backgrounds and how they fared at for-profits vs public and not-for-profit universities.

    When students from economically disadvantaged backgrounds go to public universities, they tend to attend universities with very high acceptance rates. There was also a study that compared the outcomes of Black students at HBCUs vs for-profits. Black students had higher graduation rates at HBCUs.
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