I am a DL Scholar who wishes to participate in this forum.

I believe my expertise, experience and excitement regarding DL can make a valuable contribution to DegreeInfo.

Dr. Maybelle Jones

 

Welcome to the board. Can you tell us about yourself? DL experience, degrees earned, professional experience, etc.

Thanks,

John

 

I prefer to post under a pen name, given some of the situations I have read about regarding personal information and the Net. This will call for a large degree of anonymity on my part, however, suffice it to say, I have undergrad and graduate degrees (all RA), and am an active proponent of DL. I look forward to DL dialogue.

Dr. Maybelle Jones

 

Oh no. Give us a break!

 

Silly me, I have been using my real name and posting my real schools.........and I haven't been harassed!!!!!! Ok, guys, why? Howard Rodgers

 

For some reason, a quote comes to mind here...

"When you've got it, you don't have to flaunt it."
-- S. Levicoff


Cheers,

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Tom Head
www.tomhead.net

co-author, Bears' Guide to the Best Education Degrees by Distance Learning (Ten Speed Press)
co-author, Get Your IT Degree and Get Ahead (Osborne/McGraw-Hill)

 

This is not a good sign as posters to this forum who typically do not disclose their credentials are often those with credentials they are not proud of. In order to have credability as a DL scholar you need to be upfront with your credentials and experience.
All of our resident DL Scholars are known. Your chances of being harrassed through a post here is about as likely as being harassed by having your name in print on a scholarly journal article.

"Dr." Jones, who are you?

John

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John R. Wetsch, Ph.D.

B.S. '01 University of North Dakota
B.S. '84 Excelsior College (USNY/Regents)
M.A. '89 Antioch University, The McGregor School
Ph.D. '94 Nova Southeastern University

 

I agree! So, since I do have it (ie, legitimate RA degrees), I do not have to flaunt it. Good productive dialogue is what I am wanting to participate in.

LOL

Dr. Maybelle Jones

 

But you will NOT be giving "GOOD DIALOGUE"

I am sure there are several on the board that you could confide in and they would be able to stand up for you while keeping your privacy, BUT without even naming the schools you claim to have attended your dialogue and 89 cents will get me a large coffee at 7-11 IF I bring my own cup!

Dan Snelson
COSC class of early next year...

 

However, we all know of Dr. Levicoff's credentials and he would post them when asked or tell you where to find them (and has). In fact, when I first joined A.E.D. it was Steve who asked for my credentials.

John

 

I remember the plot of some spy novel that turned on the revelation that a person believed to be using an alias turned out to be using her real name. If that is perchance the case, then our new poster is dead already:
--------------------------------------------- http://www.shelbystar.com/obits/_disc4/000000cf.htm
KINGS MOUNTAIN - Mrs. Maybelle Jones, 72, of 216 Walker St., died Thursday, Sept. 2, 1999, at her residence. The funeral will be Saturday at 2 p.m. at Macedonia Baptist Church with the Revs. David Philbeck and Olin Byrum officiating. Burial will follow at Mountain Rest Cemetery.
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John Bear
BA, MJ, U. of California, Berkeley
PhD, Michigan State U

 

Come now, colleagues. My only intention is to communicate, correspond and dialogue regarding DL. I trust I will be able to do this with anonymity. Let my posts and opinions speak for themselves. If I offer worthless advice/opinion--discard it, but if what I offer is substantive--please don't discard because of my anonymity.

Dr. Maybelle Jones

 

Speaking of psuedonymns....when I got out of the Army in 1986 and barely had two nickels to rub together, all I could afford for accommodations was a room in a somewhat seedy boarding house. When I set up phone service, I really couldn't afford the $2 or so per month to have an unlisted number, so I had the listing put under the name of my non-existent roommate, "Jim Steele". So, whenever the phone rang and someone asked for Jim Steele, I knew they were a telemarketer or someone else I had no desire to talk to, and would promptly hang up.

Fans of American Literature will recognize that "Jim Steele" was the psuedonymn of Holden Caulfield, the main character in "The Catcher in the Rye", one of my favorite books.

And now that I *can* afford unlisted phone service, don't bother calling 411 in Boston for Jim Steele....if there is a listing for that name, it isn't me!


Bruce

 

This would add a whole new dimension to the term distance education -- from beyond the grave!

 

In the spirit of "I'll show you mine, you show me yours":

B.A. ('96), USNY/Regents
M.A. ('00), California State--Dominguez Hills


Cheers,

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Tom Head
www.tomhead.net

co-author, Bears' Guide to the Best Education Degrees by Distance Learning (Ten Speed Press)
co-author, Get Your IT Degree and Get Ahead (Osborne/McGraw-Hill)

 

In this most humorous thread I count four posts thus far by "Doctor" Jones. In all four, she has essentially restated the same thing, offering no information, yet not taking offense at any of the reactions to her, um, offer.

I am delighted that Tom H. quoted me on the issue of not having to flaunt credentials, and surely Maybelle understands (if, indeed, she has any degrees at all) that flaunting is not the same as establishing one's credibility. If she has done any surfing here at all, she must have an indication of the need to establish credibility; if she does not, then she also does not have the common sense to offer sound advice in the first place.

Nonetheless, I am reminded of something else I have written many times: The mark of a truly great con artist is that he or she always sticks to the con, even in the face of the most blatant evidence exposing the con.

Perhaps Maybelle will take a moment to read some of the threads in the MIGS forum (which may be quickly reached by using the "Hop to" feature at the bottom of this screen) and address a potentially hypothetical scenario. Namely, in the MIGS thread we have an example of one of the truly great con artists of our time: our old friend Sheila. Remember, in the face of all evidence against MIGS, Sheila has always stuck to the rap. What, then, would prevent us from the proposition that Maybelle is Sheila (or some other degree mill operator)?

The notion that one need not flaunt their credentials is, indeed, true. However, in the face of the need to establish credibility, a person who truly holds legitimate credentials will never refuse to divulge them, especially in a forum which purports to advise readers on issues that will affect both their personal and professional futures.

So, Maybelle, I invite you to be as open . . . as the rest of us. If not, you will have no credibility here at all, and needn't bother with any further responses.

Steve
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B.A. Thomas Edison State College
- Humanities, 1987
M.A. Vermont College of Norwich University
- Theology & Law, 1989
Ph.D. The Union Institute
- Religion & Law, 1991

P.S. Personal note to John Wetsch - Congratulations! I see that you've added a degree from UND to your resume. New field?

 

A P.S. to my post:

In academia, it is a given assumption that someone who earns a doctorate will be a scholar in his or her field, insofar as one of the results of earning a doctorate (especially a Ph.D.) is that the person makes "an original contributon to the body of scholarly literature" in his or her field.

Nonetheless, it impresses me as somewhat pompous and presumptuous when someone, regardless of their credentials identifies himself or herself by saying, "I am a scholar." The title scholar is an honor to be bestowed by others, not by one's self.

My take: "Doctor" Jones is a fake. If she is not, let her prove it here. And if she is not willing to prove it here (and she can bet her buns that it will be checked out), then I suggest she allow this thread to die out, lest she become more of a laughinstock than she already is.

If, on the other hand, she is as smart andas legitimate as she purports to be, then she can be assured that she will, indeed, be welcomed here as a . . . scholar.

But let's not hold our collective breath. Cyanosis does not become us.

 

Gert writes, "This would add a whole new dimension to the term distance education -- from beyond the grave!"

Reminiscent of Karma University, where, following past life hypnotic regression, full credit is awarded for past life experience.

And hey, the Mormons have been baptizing the dead for years. Why not award them degrees as well.

John Bear, whose Jewish grandfather
died in 1935, and was baptized as
a Mormon, without the family's
knowledge or permission, in Sweden
in 1972.

 

Ironically, this statement seems pretty pompous and presumptuous...

 

If one wants to participate in this forum, then do so. Announcing it, and stating the desire for dialogue about DL, seems to be redundant.

Credibility may be established by the comments and questions posed, but I see no harm in stating at least from what schools one has degrees.

Craig
B.A., The Pennsylvania State University
M.Div., Ashland Theological Seminary