Hurricanes... and the religious right

Discussion in 'Off-Topic Discussions' started by Carl_Reginstein, Oct 19, 2005.

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  1. I could have probably just as well posted this in the "Political Discussions" forum, but since I'm about to take a jab at religious fundamentalists I thought I'd put it here for starters....

    Anyway... here's the scoop. When Katrina tore apart New Orleans, we had all sorts of religious right/scum come out of the woodwork and say that God destroyed New Orleans because of its tolerance and acceptance of gays. It was "divine punishment" for past, present, and possibly future sins!

    Now.... if God really were doing this, wouldn't he be a bit more selective? Why destroy all those straight-people homes and lives in the process? To say nothing of the homeless and truly downtrodden who suffered far more than your average affluent gay man in New Orleans - most of whom I assume got out way ahead of the storm.

    I'm posting this today because I'm predicting that we are going to see a similar outburst from the religio-psycho-fanatics regarding the Florida Keys and Hurricane Wilma. As many of you know, "Fantasy Fest" (a bacchanalian event of the first order) is planned for the Keys over the next week, culminating in Halloween. Is God now about to wreak devastation on the Keys for its tolerance of alternative lifestyles?

    What say you religious nuts???

    (Note, I'm not talking about mainstream religious people here - just the nuts in the crowd..... to whom this post is probably offensive, but a good dose of reality nonetheless. I'm actually trying to HELP you see the error of your ways - obvious to all but your twisted narrow minded perspective).
     
  2. Jack Tracey

    Jack Tracey New Member

    Carl - You've started out on the wrong foot here. You post is deliberately insulting to other members and can only be seen as an attempt to draw people into a flame war and is a violation of the Terms of Service. It is possible to discuss such issues without insult and I urge members who wish to respond to do so in a civil manner. Further insulting personal comments, abusive language or other inflamatory language will result, minimally, in the locking of this thread. You won't get another warning Carl.
    Jack
     
  3. Khan

    Khan New Member

    I don't think there are any generalities in who is being nailed in all these natural disasters. Seems like there is plenty of misery for everyone.
    Also, I haven't heard any religious people say it was because of homosexuality. I am hearing that it's a sign of the end of the world. Couldn't possibly be nature doing what it's been doing since the beginning of time or anything.
     
  4. gkillion

    gkillion New Member

    Everyone knows it was the Halliburton hurricane machine.:rolleyes:
     
  5. OK.... So I'm having a bad day..... I apologize to the religious right, whom I deliberately attempted to insult and abuse - partially because it is so darned easy to do.

    Sorry.....

    But I have heard commentary about these hurricanes and natural disasters being a divine response to gay friendliness in places like New Orleans, all of which talk is just pure rubbish in a secular world ruled by science, not mythology.

    Like these nuts.... for example....

    http://www.repentamerica.com/pr_hurricanekatrina.html

    I'm sorry - they piss me off.
     
  6. gkillion

    gkillion New Member

    Apparently you missed the "nuts" on the left who claim Bush destroyed the levees with dynamite.

    Does that piss you off too?
     
  7. Yes, it does....

    I am fair and open-minded in terms of who pisses me off these days....
     
  8. Ted Heiks

    Ted Heiks Moderator and Distinguished Senior Member

    Somehow the existence of conspiracy theories, right or left, doesn't surprise me. Not sure whether they piss me off or make me laugh.
     
  9. uncle janko

    uncle janko member

    to err is muckle bad, to circumlocute divine

    Hi Carl:

    This regrettable stuff (if I get any more civil about it I'll get an owie) is why we ultra-right-wing Lutherans insist that God's will is known only through his Word, not through oneiromancy or whatever private vehicles to which such persons as those to whom you allude resort.

    Better one day as a lion than a thousand years as a sheep!

    Be well, my friend.

    Janko the Mad Priest
     
  10. gkillion

    gkillion New Member

    Why does it piss you off? A nut is a nut, why lose sleep over it?
     
  11. Mr. Engineer

    Mr. Engineer member

    What - are you telling me that he didn't do this? Man - and I thought it was true. Couldn't you picture ole GW and Cap't Pacemaker up there on the levees trying to blow them up?

    :p
     
  12. SteveFoerster

    SteveFoerster Resident Gadfly Staff Member

    Oh, please

    Didn't Katrina's eye pass over Gulfport, Mississippi, not New Orleans itself? Even when the Lord destroyed Sodom and Gomorrah, he spared nearby Zoar, so are the gay bashers suggesting His aim isn't what it used to be?

    -=Steve=-
     
  13. gkillion

    gkillion New Member

    He hired Halliburton to do it for him.
     
  14. Mr. Engineer

    Mr. Engineer member

    Oh - that is how he did it. I should have suspected that. Of course it must be true - it was in the Weekly World News
     
  15. nosborne48

    nosborne48 Well-Known Member

    The thing I never quite understood was seeing some poor guy with his wife and kids standing in front of the camera saying, "Well, we've lost everything but God blessed us and we are still alive."

    Now, he's grateful for being delivered but what about the corollary? If his children drowned but he survived, shouldn't he curse God for causing their deaths? God either does things or he doesn't do things, so long as we cling to an omnipotent God.

    I bring you, yet again, the CORRECT way to understand the Book of Job!
     
  16. miguelstefan

    miguelstefan New Member

    I believe in God.
    I believe in Heaven.
    I believe in Hell.
    I believe that there is a special place in hell for people that use human missery as justification for the unjustifiable.
    Amen...
     
  17. mcdirector

    mcdirector New Member

    nosborne's post reminded me of Horatio Spafford. He was ruined financially because of the Chicago fire. Then his four girls were killed in a ocean accident.

    He wrote the hymn (one I consider great), It is Well with my Soul, after his daughters died.

    http://www.cyberhymnal.org/htm/i/t/i/itiswell.htm
     
  18. Mr. Engineer

    Mr. Engineer member

    Amen brother! Well said
     
  19. uncle janko

    uncle janko member

    ani ma'amin

    Indeed.
     
  20. davidhume

    davidhume New Member

    Re: to err is muckle bad, to circumlocute divine

    Ahhh....how do you 'know' 'God's will' through 'his Word'?

    In fact, how do you know that his 'Word' -obviously referring to the Bible- is God's word?
     

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