How do IT Certs Transfer into Thomas Edison State College

Discussion in 'General Distance Learning Discussions' started by firstmode4c, Nov 7, 2009.

  1. firstmode4c

    firstmode4c Member

    Hey Guys,

    Could not really find this info on the site, but have a friend looking to complete a degree that has an ITIL V3 FOUNDATION CERT, CCNA, CCNP, and will have the CCIE Written done soon.

    How would it work out with TESC when it comes to transfers into any program there? Well, i guess i was thinking this program in particular:

    BSAST in Information Technology

  2. firstmode4c

    firstmode4c Member

    Any help ;-) ?
  3. Ted Heiks

    Ted Heiks Moderator and Distinguished Senior Member Staff Member

  4. firstmode4c

    firstmode4c Member

    Yea, I saw that link, looks like only OLD novell and microsoft certification will translate into any credit.

    I was hoping someone had a different experience as the CCNP is harder than any Microsoft exam out there and the CCIE is pretty much like getting a guarantee that you will be making over $100,000 a year for the rest of your life and will not ever have any kind of trouble finding a job. There are only 13,000 CCIE holders on the planet.

    Was hoping these certs would give college credit at TESC. Oh well.
  5. sentinel

    sentinel New Member

    I wonder whether Fort Hays State University would award credit hours for the certifications. Alternatively, PLA at Thomas Edison State College is another way to earn credit hours if you can find a credit-bearing course which covers the same material as the certification area. Western Governors University uses a comptency model rather than specific courses towards their degrees; might be worth looking into this option as well.
  6. Petedude

    Petedude New Member

    "Big 3" are somewhat cert-shy

    The "Big 3" of assessment-based programs (EC, TESC, COSC) are somewhat leery of really using IT certs unless you're in a Computer-related major, e.g. Computer Science. Your best bet is to plan to use one or two of them for junk credits near the end of the program if you have nothing else to fill those electives with.
  7. Kaz

    Kaz New Member

    My personal opinion? He shouldn't go for an I.T. or computer science degree. He should go for business administration, maybe with an I.T. concentration like TESC's BSBA in Computer Information Systems.

    If he manages to pull-off the CCIE, as you know, he can command serious salary (as long as his work experience backs up such a terminal cert). I really don't see how just knocking out a bachelor's can improve that. It would only prevent doors from being automatically closed because he doesn't have one.

    Doors that can be propped open like that can usually be propped open with any "reasonably appropriate" degree. I actually think a CS or IT degree is too redundant for a CCIE. It demonstrates a barely broadened skill set. A business degree broadens more, IMHO.

    A few years ago, I asked a high school friend of mine with a computer science degree and years in the field his opinion about the field in general and where I might best direct my schooling. At the time I was a computer science and math double major. He said the math half might actually be more attractive. He said if he was going through the process now, he wouldn't even get a CS degree. He'd get something like an English/physics double major and then rely on his work experience and demonstrable skills to validate his computer know-how.

    I was really surprised by that answer! But it seemed logical when he explained it. Simply put, you seem like you bring more to the table with your diversity. If you are "computers computers computers" on your resume, then you seem like you bring just that point of view, and importantly, a point of view that is easy to come by nowadays with so many more CS/IT degree holders than 15 years ago.

    Your friend has proven, demonstrable computer skills that are formidable with respect to Cisco products. I vote he diversify his image with business credentials. Just my two cents.

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