Homeland Security official has Hamilton "PhD"

Site me a case of a person receiving a degree from a legal degree granting institution, being honest about how it was received, and having legal action taken against them by their employer for fraud. Please post a link to such a case.

 

site = cite

 

Say no more. What makes finding such a case improbable, if not impossible, lies first in finding an individual who was honest about the true nature of his or her degree.

 

It also attests to the fact that if you answer honestly when asked, there have been no provable cases of fraud taken.

 

Re: Integrity?

I think the line is a lot thivker. Especially when such a degree will not embarass its holder and the ever growing acceptance of legitimate and RA online learning. A far cry from schools that totally lack in standards.

John

 

I suppose that is possible. But in the mean time, if the choice is between using a legal unaccredited degree or using nothing, I would personally take my chances.

 

Then why not just lie about it? Become ordained. (You can do it in seconds, for free, online.) Start your own church. Then the church starts a school. Then the school grants you a degree. Or several. The whole process could easily be completed in 5 minutes. And the degrees would be just as legitimate as those from Hamilton, and much cheaper.

 

Why would you say "She obviously had skills and ability"?

Callahan had choices and picked the very worst. California Coast would have given her a legal standing, Hamilton none. She obviously has skills and ability. Obtaining a State Approved diploma or better, one of the easier Distance RA schools, would have kept her out of trouble. A degree mill diploma is useful only for framing and looking at, it can't be used. Unless you run short of toilet paper.

 

Two Presidents, one a Democrat & the other a Republican, made use of her skills. I have no way of knowing the level of her skills, but assume she had some talent to reach her position in government.

 

Sure it can be used. She's using it. Other people use them and get paid thousands of dollars and there is never a problem.

 

Aye, but Dr. Callahan used to walk around saying, "What's that ticking sound?"

 

Maybe, maybe not. For the money, and the fact that it's not technically illegal, a lot of people will take that chance.

 

Yes it is true. There are too many frauds running around. There's also too many shoplifters, burglers, and muggers running around.

 

Look, as I've said, my degree is RA. But I honestly don't see this as a clear case of fraud. It is legal. In many cases, these people are legitimately qualified. Even RA schools now are giving quite a lot of units for "life experience". I'm not saying it's the best choice, but I don't think it's fraud most of the time.

 

Callahan is an academic fraud. She doesn't have the credentials required to do the job that she's doing. A Bachelor's degree is required for most engineering positions. I'd guess all engineering positions within civil service. She's been asked to not show up for work. I'm sure that you know what the next step is likely to be.

 

I don't believe that "there is never a problem".

As I suggested in my last post, it probably depends on how the phony degree is being used.

If it's just a vanity item for an individual who qualifies for his/her job without it, it might pass as simply an example of bad judgement.

But if a position demands a particular level of education, and if a person who doesn't have that education lies and pretends to have it through use of a fake degree, then I'm sure that's sufficient reason for termination.

I expect that grounds also exist for a lawsuit by the employer, if any damages resulted to the employer or its customers from relying on the employee's false educational claims.

 

Her case is somewhat unique because of her security risk. I'm not convinced she will be booted though. She very well may survive on the fact that her education is a from a legal degree granting institution that is religious in nature. But because of the political nature of this situation, I wouldn't be surprised if she handed in her resignation.

I don't think there is any grounds for an employer to sue. Your argument is good in theory, but in practice, it would never happen.

 

And it's sad that most of them are public servants!

 

It is sad that any frauds are public servants, however public servants are just that ...public.

I would think this goes on in the private sector just as much, if not more often. That is a private sector matter, therefore private.

 

Update from Government Computer News: Davis wants review of OPM’s credential-check measures.