Help! A job intervierwer wants proof that Excelsior is accredited .

I just hope the license doesn't entitle folks to manustuprate in public, or I'm never taking the subway.


Cheers,

 

Hiya! The word of the day is...

You know, with a name like Head, maybe I should have looked the word up before I posted that:
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Cheers,

 

I'm suprised that someone would be offended by an employer questioning a school he has never heard of. I'm in support of employers questioning both the validity of the applicant and the school, because it will reduce the fraud that takes place daily in this country.

Should an employer be aware of the accreditation system? Maybe.
But keep in mind that not all employers are large companies with full-time human resources departments. In many cases the person who hires employees is the owner, or a manager. Hiring is one small part of their job, and they usually don't have the time to spend countless hours on degreeinfo.com, or reading college guides.

What's the problem? Submit a letter with the necessay information.

I have to add, however, that the reason I decided against Excelsior, was the name, and the potential problems outlined by the original poster. As I stated on a previous thread, I believe Excelsior to be an excellent DL program, but I didn't want the hassels I predicted with the name.

 

I saw a student the other day on the subway praticing for their state licence! (some Hairy guy named Joe)

 

I agree. Also, if you list a school that they already know is accredited, they should verify that you actually went to school there. As far as recruitment of those with DL degrees goes -- unfortunately, most HR managers are still a step behind and will consider a DL degree to be of significantly less value than a traditional degree. I don't like it, but I've heard this same report from others. So after the recruiter finds out about Excelsior's accreditation status, there may be other issues.

If I had to advise someone new who was getting a DL degree, I would advise them to find a traditional, well-know (i.e. plays division I football) that also offers DL degrees. From my point of view, you will save yourself a lot of hassle over choosing a school like Nova, Union, Argosy, Touro, etc.

Of course, as far a DL Ph.D.s go, there is not a lot of choice; however there is some.

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JoAnn Peeler

 

I am curious, why would you recommend someone who wants to further their education through DL that they should look for schools that have a division I, II, III sports team??

Don't take offense.......but that seems pointless.

I mean who cares if a school has a sports team or not? If an individual is seeking a degree - why should they care if they have a football or basketball team?

Especially, if the person is seeking a degree through a DL program.

Maybe I have misread your main thought/reply.....but I don't see the point.
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REGARDING THE EMPLOYER AND EXCELSIOR COLLEGE ACCREDIATION ISSUE:

...I say give the employer the number to excelsior college (long distance one), and the Middle States Association of Colleges and Schools' Commission on Higher Education.

While I can understand that a majority of employers may not be familar with Excelsior, TESC, and COSC.......but is that the individuals fault? No.

Provise them with the info and let them verify that they are accredited - IMO. I think it is a little chickensh*t that a company is making a big deal out of who Excelsior is - and that they imply they may be fraudulent.....and that you are displaying a false degree.

I am a current Excelsior College student (an damn proud of it too!), and if an employer would question my degree and academic instution it came from....they says a lot about the company itself!!!!!!!!

 

The point is that its better to choose a school that is better known than one that has less recognition. The comment about division I sports is my social commentary on what makes a school well known. Take it or leave it, YMMV. I don't have any scientific evidence of this, I have word of mouth only. But, since I work for a company that specializes in HR software I might be in a position to hear more word of mouth commentary than most. What I hear is that for every extra item on your resume that a recruiter has to verify increases the probability that your resume will not make it past the first cut. Having a University on your resume that everyone knows (or assumes) is accredited makes it more likely that your resume will get through the first cut. With so many big name schools offering DL degrees, I believe that anyone choosing a DL school would be better served looking at those schools first.

With that being said, I don't mean to upset those who choose to go to a little known, RA school. We are a country of the underdogs and even the well known schools were in the same situation once. However, as long as I am spending my money I know which type of school serves my purposes best. I also believe most people would be best served following the same strategy. Of course, for those looking for a non-residential Ph.D. there is a limited choice.

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JoAnn Peeler

 

Hey, at least they're checking unfamiliar schools, which is an unusual behavior from what I've measured.

 

But this is exactly what takes place. I gave a list of 12 schools to HR managers taking my survey and ask them to rate the acceptability of degrees from each. The number one school: Southwest Texas State U. Number 2: Columbia State U.! Other accredited (or equivalent) schools on the list that scored lower (statistically significanly lower): Capella, Education America (now Remington College), Heriot-Watt, and Andrew Jackson U.

NB: I wonder how much marketing was a factor in Remington's name chage. And I wonder why other weirdly named schools (like my alma mater, UI&U) don't take a lesson.

 

My diplomas were from the pre-"Regents College" days. They're awarded by "The University of the State of New York." The Board of Regents is mentioned much like they would be on a diploma from any other state system school.