Guglielmo Marconi University is ACICS accredited.

Discussion in 'General Distance Learning Discussions' started by nyvrem, Mar 9, 2016.

  1. nyvrem

    nyvrem Active Member

    where be the DL list ?

  2. Johann

    Johann Well-Known Member

  3. mintaru

    mintaru Active Member

    I doubt you really have to use This URL should turn off the automatic redirect to the local version of Google: Google
    It works from very most countries, and it should also work from Canada.

    In case you are intrested, here is a quite long (25 pages) article about the Italian accreditation system. It's from 2005, but I'm quite sure it's still correct. (I hope you don't know it already.)
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  4. Johann

    Johann Well-Known Member

    Perfect! Thanks so much. In the old days, I often used to look on various countries' Google versions to do searches within that specific country and its language.
    Then, the auto-redirect came along and put a bit of a crimp in that - now I'm crimp-free again! :smile:

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  5. Neuhaus

    Neuhaus Well-Known Member

    Thank you for this. I suppose I understand a lot of the basics. And this reinforces some of that basic knowledge. What makes me wonder is if there is a voluntary layer of accreditation that services like WES are looking for.

    There are certainly a number of Italian schools which seem to focus their efforts on attracting foreign students. So while I think it's great that there are so many English DL programs available, I'm somewhat suspicious by this fairly recent surge.
  6. japhy4529

    japhy4529 House Bassist

    Johann - I seem to recall that US students are no longer eligible to obtain Title IV funds for international distance learning programs. Perhaps this has changed (and in the case of Marconi U. perhaps they're able to get around this due to having a location in FL.

    For example, I found the following blurb within a USNAWR article:

    "One final caution about attending a foreign institution is that federal regulations do not allow U.S. students​ to do any of their degree through distance learning or online options. There is a limited exception for master’s programs, but otherwise, plan on taking every class in person, on campus."
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  7. Neuhaus

    Neuhaus Well-Known Member

    Students should be eligible to receive Title IV for this school because it has U.S. recognized accreditation.
  8. Johann

    Johann Well-Known Member

    Thanks, Neuhaus. My point, exactly. I think that is the chief reason (possibly the only reason) the school would go through all the hoops & cost of getting ACICS or other US accreditation.

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  9. jacste

    jacste New Member

    Hello, everyone! I am new on this forum and I found the conversation on Google because I was looking for some reviews regarding the allegedly "Marconi International University" so I decided to join in! :wink1:

    I am from Rome, Italy (born and raised) but I study at an American University in Italy (regionally accreditated by the State of Delaware). Since I am well aware of the American and Italian Education system, I believe I am the best bet to rate this University from an Italian and American standpoint. So, long story short, in my opinion, this is a legit (legal) for-profit college, HOWEVER (!!HOWEVER!!), we need to consider few points.

    1) The majority of reviews on their FB page come from Italians (their English is questionable) who never went to Miami although they claim to be students there (FB Page has a reviews section).
    I was very suspicious about it, so I discovered that some "public" FB profile of those people are friends or have something in common with Marconi University. I think (IMHO) that someone from Marconi told them to review the FB page in order to rank up their "value" on Social Media.

    2) The school is not regionally accreditated and we all know that a non-regional accreditation has almost an equivalency to a non-accreditated institution, in a few words this degree will not be worth much from an HR point of view in the U.S.

    3) The Italian University "Guglielmo Marconi" in Rome is well known in Rome, Italy, and somewhat well considered since everybody is getting a degree from "La Sapienza" or "Roma Tre" (2 oldest Rome Uni).

    4) Italians are being Italians, with that said, they probably realized they could make more money by creating an "American university" since the Italian Universities are ALMOST free (the public ones) and the private ones like Marconi in Rome are relatively cheap compared to American Institutions.

    5) I don't understand if this is a University per se or this is a branch for the Italian Guglielmo Marconi since you would not pay the Marconi tuition but the Marconi International University Miami tuition, and as some of you stated, the Professors' names and their titles are missing on the website. Moreover, most of the people working there are either Italians or from Latin-America. Most of their interviews are in Spanish with allegedly "professors".

    PS: I know this is an old post and I hope some of you will be able to reply here!
  10. Gabe F.

    Gabe F. Active Member

    States are not considered regional accrediting bodies. Only one state, New York, is recognized as an accrediting body; however, it is still not regional accreditation. Without knowing what university you're referring to, I have to assume it is a private business that was incorporated in the state of Delaware which is generally known as a domestic tax haven.
  11. jacste

    jacste New Member

    My University is accreditate by the the Middle States Commission on Higher Education (Middle States Commission on Higher Education) so it isa valid regionally accreditate institution and its degrees are 100% American.
  12. SteveFoerster

    SteveFoerster Resident Gadfly Staff Member

    That's not true. International recognition can be spotty, but degrees from nationally accredited schools are often accepted just fine by employers in the U.S.
  13. jacste

    jacste New Member

    I've read otherwise online such as geteducated website. Regional accreditation has a higher value than a national accreditation. Also, students from a national accredited institution cannot transfer credits to some regional accredited institutions. To answer the post before my University is John Cabot University, you can look it up online and it releases 100% American bachelor degrees. I'm studying B.A. in Communications.
  14. Neuhaus

    Neuhaus Well-Known Member

    Emphasis is mine.

    Since you are well aware of the American educational system you should be equally aware that your school did not receive its regional accreditation from the state of Delaware.

    It's possible. It's also possible that people are leaving reviews for the Miami location thinking it is the Italian. Happens all the time. My own alma mater, the University of Management and Technology, shares its name with a school in Pakistan. So the reviews get muddled, from time to time.

    Oh, wow, you're an expert in U.S. HR now, too? That's amazing.

    While it is true that national accreditation has its limitations in the U.S. the bulk of HR representatives here do not have a clear picture of accreditation. Even companies that list a preference or requirement for RA degrees have been known to hire a graduate of an NA school.

    But schools accredited by non-RA agencies, as long as they are USDOE recognized, are also valid for employment with the federal government which, by itself, puts them in a category apart from unaccredited schools.

    Possibly a translational issue but this sentence doesn't actually make sense. How is a degree from Marconi "well considered" since everybody is getting a degree from La Sapienza or Roma Tre?

    That's like saying that degrees from Boston University are well regarded because "everybody" is getting a degree from Harvard and MIT.

    Who can blame them? British universities, Australian universities and many others are jumping on the same bandwagon.

    There seem to be a few possibilities here:

    1. Marconi International University has no connection with the Italian university of a similar name. So someone may have just thought up the notion of starting a school in the U.S. trying to capitalize on a better known Italian school. It would be like if I moved to another country and started "Harvard International University of Mogadishu."

    2. UniMarconi started this venture to try to allow U.S. students to study with them while accessing U.S. financial aid.

    3. UniMarconi licensed its name to an independent venture.

    As I poke around the website it seems most reasonable that either 1 or 3 is the correct answer. The Miami school's "CEO" is Dr. Laura Ricci. According to her LinkedIn profile she is, in some manner, responsible for international relations between or on behalf of both entities.

    But the UniMarconi site does list the Marconi International website under "locations." However, MIU does not appear under the "international locations" section but under the "International Agreement Locations" section. That "agreement" piece makes me inclined to believe it is number 3.

    It's actually pretty straight forward:

    Where are the transcripts kept and which entity awards the degree?

    If you are getting a UniMarconi degree, even if it is at the higher MIU prices, then cool. You're getting a degree that, upon WES review, would almost certainly come across as RA equivalent regardless of whatever secondary U.S. accreditation they carry (they note that they are currently applying for ACCSC).

    If the degree is being awarded by MIU, however, then that U.S. accreditation is going to matter a lot more.
  15. jacste

    jacste New Member

    Hi there!

    I am not sure if you are being sarcastic on this post or anything else but here you can find my reply:

    First of all, I made a mistake indeed. Of course, Delaware does not issue Regional Accreditation, I meant that my University is accredited by the Middle States Commission on Higher Education and (I cite here the University website) "John Cabot University is incorporated as a not-for-profit organization in the State of Delaware and is licensed to award its degrees by the Delaware Department of Education. The University is registered in the United States as a 501 (c) (3) not-for-profit organization." (JCU Website).

    My University is 100% American University issuing regionally accredited American degrees! (Debate closed)

    I am not an H.R. expert in the U.S. or wherever, BUT, I know many Human Resources Managers from the U.S. that agree accordingly with my statement so I am not BSing there. I also believe that H.R. managers were students too so they (if studied at American Universities) are aware of the national or regional accreditation difference. Do you have statistics or sources when you state
    However, at the end of the day, the employer and H.R. cares about whether the potential employee could be a good asset for the company.

    Most likely the Marconi University of Rome licensed its name to venture in the U.S.

    Yet, I still believe that spending money for MIU is a complete waste!
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  16. jacste

    jacste New Member

    It cannot be a "translational issue" since I am not using a translator to speak or write in English, I rather use my own words to argument my statement. When I wrote this post, I was in a hurry meaning that I was "speedwriting" without double checking any mistake or error.

    Thank you! :)
  17. Neuhaus

    Neuhaus Well-Known Member

    A "translational issue" does not imply that you used a translator. I was giving you the benefit of the doubt that your nonsensical sentence was caused by the fact that English is not your first language.
  18. Stanislav

    Stanislav Well-Known Member


    It looks like MIU awards its own degree - except for programs that award dual degrees (both MIU and GMU). So yeah, related but separate entities, each separately recognized.
  19. Viktoria

    Viktoria Member

    Hello everyone,

    I also got curious about this school, and whether its reputation improved in the recent years. So... the only part related to the accreditation on the website is this:

    Guglielmo Marconi University is the first online university recognized by the Italian Ministry of Education (“Ministero dell’Istruzione, dell’Università e della Ricerca”) according to the Ministerial Decree of March 1st, 2004. Titles and qualifications are recognized by the Italian law and education system. The University is therefore not responsible for the purpose of recognizing the title in another EU or NO / EU country and for a professional activity or enrollment in a subsequent / other course of study.

    Also found this from

    Guglielmo Marconi University Rankings
    One more thing - they changed the domain name. Are these all bad signs?
  20. Johann

    Johann Well-Known Member

    "Born under a bad sign...
    Bin down since I could crawl;
    Wasn't for bad luck...
    Wouldn't have no luck at all." - Albert King (Born under a Bad Sign)

    They tell you straight out that it's not their concern if your degree from them is not good for employment or further school anywhere else other than Italy. At last. something I can believe in, from this school. That their degrees might very well not work anywhere else. What more do you need to hear? I turned my ears off years ago at ACICS - the accreditor that died and was resuscitated by Betsy DeVos of USDOE at the beast - I mean behest of then-President Donald J. Trump. ACICS was smoked a second time and put out of its misery - the shuttering is supposed to be complete by Mar. 2024.

    Last I heard. this uni was turning To ACSCC for American accreditation. That's a troubled outfit, too, on a short leash. It was very lucky to have its permission renewed for three years by NACIQI. Standard is five years, some members wanted it to be one year.

    Colour me unimpressed - too much bafflegab from this outfit in the past. I don't think much has changed. "Frontin' like they all that." Can't see what's the attraction here.
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