Greek and Hebrew

Discussion in 'Education, Teaching and related degrees' started by jjwolfe, Sep 5, 2022.

  1. TeacherBelgium

    TeacherBelgium Well-Known Member

    I agree of course! :)
  2. Johann

    Johann Well-Known Member

    Works for Greek I and II. I did not see Hebrew on the ICE list. You can complete the two Greek exams AND transfer the credit into the certificate (max. transfer credit 50%). That leaves two more courses for the certificate. No more transfers. Those two courses will cost about $1,500. The two are Greek Syntax and Greek Exegesis (Galatians.)

    So you end up spending about $1800 instead of $3,000, for the certificate. A good saving but still expensive. If the RA credits for the two courses suffice (no certificate) then -- OK.
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  4. sanantone

    sanantone Well-Known Member

    Hebrew is on the ICE list; there's just not a Hebrew certificate program. If I had to choose between a non-credit certificate that's several hundred dollars or loose graduate credits, I'd choose the graduate credits. If you have a transcript, you don't really need the certificate.
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  5. sanantone

    sanantone Well-Known Member

    Correction: Liberty has a graduate certificate in Bible Exposition; it includes Greek and Hebrew courses.

    There's also a graduate certificate in Biblical Languages - Hebrew.

    This isn't a cheaper option, but I'm throwing it out there. Liberty has an Executive Certificate in Bible Exposition. The executive certificates are technically doctoral-level, but the required language courses in this particular certificate are masters-level and have corresponding ICE exams.
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  6. Johann

    Johann Well-Known Member

    The OP started out by saying a Liberty cert. in Greek was too expensive at $3,000. I think the only way Liberty would work for him is your original suggestion. If he can learn on his own, free or very cheaply and grab credits by ICE exam from Liberty at around $140 per exam --- and pay NO OTHER fees - it may be viable. (And I'm NOT really sure whether or not that's possible - to leave Liberty with those stand-alone credits without paying extra.)

    Therefore, if the objective is solely to learn these two Biblical languages, and the budget is quite limited - Liberty might not be the best option. I'm not religious at all, although I am interested in the historical Jesus; I admire Him and feel He was a very good teacher. So - I have no stake in this - but I think it should NOT cost in the thousands of dollars, for someone with a sincere desire to know more of Jesus, to learn these two languages of His time. It doesn't seem right. But what do I know?
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  7. Johann

    Johann Well-Known Member

    I wonder sometimes, what Jesus might think, about all of the money that's charged in His name - to learn about what He preached, said and did --- for free.
  8. sanantone

    sanantone Well-Known Member

    You don't need to be a matriculated student to take the exams. You'll receive an exam transcript similar to what Excelsior and CSU Global used to issue for their exams. However, I do think you need to be accepted to one of their programs to register, but applying is free. I see that they raised the cost of the exams from $100 to $130. Maybe it's just me, but I wouldn't want to pay $500 for a non-credit certificate.

    Nations University is free for one quarter, but I'm not sure how much freedom they give students in selecting their first few courses. They might not let someone jump right to language courses, but it doesn't hurt to ask.

    Another option is Coopersmith for Hebrew, but the OP would have to pay about $400 for a credit bank transcript at Excelsior or TESU in addition to the exam fees. Coopersmith issues its own transcript, but they're not an accredited college. Davar also offers Hebrew exams, but once again, one would have to pay for a credit bank transcript.

    Genesis University charges $60 per credit hour and is accredited by DEAC. They offer Hebrew.
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  9. Johann

    Johann Well-Known Member

    Very informative - the whole thing. Now why didn't i think of Genesis? All good suggestions - and that one was great. Thanks!
  10. nosborne48

    nosborne48 Well-Known Member

    A diffident suggestion...Hebrew is a Jewish language that evolved over centuries largely because generations upon generations of Jews have learned it, taught it, and used it. Perhaps, in addition to whatever for-credit classes you might need, take an in-person class at your local synagogue. There I predict that you will experience Hebrew as a living language and the Bible texts as living documents in historic and modern contexts rather than as dusty museum pieces. You will also likely be exposed to Israeli speakers of Modern Hebrew. If you really put your back into it you might pick up a useful smattering of Aramaic as well. (Maybe even some Yiddish, too, who knows?)

    I warn you, though...spending too much time around synagogue involved Jews may challenge your faith.
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  11. Johann

    Johann Well-Known Member

    The whole post is an excellent suggestion, as I see it.

    But my faith? If I lost it properly - and I did, how are they gonna find it? :) I'd just say !לא "Neyn!"
    Last edited: Sep 21, 2022
  12. Johann

    Johann Well-Known Member

    Or maybe "Just Say Nu." Excellent book about Yiddish by Michael Wex. Enjoyable read. I have a copy.
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  13. nosborne48

    nosborne48 Well-Known Member

    Wex also wrote the excellent "Born to Kvetch".
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