Greek and Hebrew

Discussion in 'Education, Teaching and related degrees' started by jjwolfe, Sep 5, 2022.

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  1. jjwolfe

    jjwolfe New Member

    Not sure if I'm in the right place on this but... my denomination is ordaining me through a certificate program. I'm bolstering that through a combo of a Master's in Biblical Counseling combined with a D Min through another school. Due to my path I have a weird little gap... Greek and Hebrew. I know where to go to learn it online but I'd like a low cost or free cert in these areas. Liberty offers a Greek cert but it's nearly 3,000. Any ideas on this?
     
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  2. Dustin

    Dustin Well-Known Member

    Just to clarify, is this Ancient Greek and Hebrew? I assume so but it will change the answers.
     
  3. Johann

    Johann Well-Known Member

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  4. Johann

    Johann Well-Known Member

    Here, you get five courses. Both Languages plus Aramaic. Certificates, of course. Total package $999. I noticed their Greek instructor is William D. Mounce. Well known as an author of texts and teacher of Biblical Greek. I know nothing, really, about this school. You be the judge.
    https://courses.zondervanacademic.com/biblical-language-certificate

    If you want to do it completely on your own - there are downloadable free PDF texts on both. Good ones. Always an easy find on Google. There are also free Biblical Greek lectures on YouTube. Quality of those varies.
     
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  5. Rachel83az

    Rachel83az Well-Known Member

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  6. jjwolfe

    jjwolfe New Member

    Yes Biblical or Ancient Greek and Hebrew. Good answers here. I knew about Zondevan and Mounce. BibleMesh looks interesting.
     
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  7. jjwolfe

    jjwolfe New Member

    Thanks yeah lots of good stuff on the net for these languages but I want a reputable cert as well.
     
  8. Johann

    Johann Well-Known Member

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  9. Johann

    Johann Well-Known Member

    This school has 6 mo. introductory courses, both languages - Lucent University TX. Around $89
    https://www.lucent.university/greek-tools.html I believe the school is allied with Billy Graham Ministries.

    This school does not have recognized US accreditation - I presume it has religious exemption.
    It has ASIC International Accreditation - that is not recognized as US accreditation - no significance in regard to US degrees.

    Then again, these certs. are not degrees. All the certs I have seen from schools with CHEA and/or USDoE recognized accreditation, ran around $3000 and up - same ballpark as Liberty. Free or for a few hundred bucks, you're not going to find a cert that'll usually be 15 or more RA - or even NA credits... so I think at a low price you're stuck with religious exemption schools (no US-recognized accreditation) or non-universities. Too bad Nations U. does not offer this particular cert.

    @Rachel83az - Thanks for reporting that info on Nations.
     
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  10. Johann

    Johann Well-Known Member

    Also - check out Udemy - they have a few low-cost options. Just look under Biblical Greek / Bible Greek. They often have instructors with great knowledge - and teaching experience at major Universities. A cert. from a course taught by someone of this calibre may be cheap (on Udemy) but could be valuable far in excess of its price. I find there's usually some info about the instructor on the course ad.
     
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  11. TeacherBelgium

    TeacherBelgium Well-Known Member

    Kyrie Eleison :)

    I believe the CentreOfExcellence had a course in Ancient Greek and Latin too for £27
     
  12. Johann

    Johann Well-Known Member

    Thanks - but there's some difference between Attic (Ancient) Greek and Koine (Bible Greek.) Attic is very beautiful - and expressive. Bible Greek is more stripped-down and "basic model." https://ancientlanguage.com/difference-between-koine-and-attic-greek/
     
  13. TeacherBelgium

    TeacherBelgium Well-Known Member

    I know. I was taught both in high school.
    Vocabulary is different.
    Grammar is largely the same.
    Grammar will be the biggest challenge.
    The aoristus is a very important tense in both Attic Greek and Koine Greek for example.
    Have you taken Attic Greek classes before?
    There are lots of dialects in Ancient Greek.
    Homeric Greek for example is also quite different from Attic Greek.
    Herodotic (Herodotos) Greek is also quite different from Attic Greek.
    Style figures like Hiatus or Syncope can also make quite a different in structure and pronunciation.
    Good luck anyway.
    Enjoy.
     
  14. TeacherBelgium

    TeacherBelgium Well-Known Member

    Hermeneutica Biblica from José M. Martinez, may be an interesting book to read in concert with your Koine Greek classes.
    I had to read that book in law school and it helps a lot with interpreting the bible.
     
  15. Johann

    Johann Well-Known Member

    Yes - in the Dark Ages (late 1950s) It was only available as an extra-curricular at my high school. I took English, Latin, French and German in regular classes. I didn't get nearly as much Greek. I should do something about that....
     
  16. TeacherBelgium

    TeacherBelgium Well-Known Member

    I still have all my books from high school.
    The Odyssee, Ilias, Aeneis, Daedalos and Ikaros, Ovidius Metamorfosis, Philemoon and Baukis, Bucolica.
    Been a long while.
    Maybe I'll re-read them one day.
    For now I keep them as a fond memory.

    PS: Lysistrata from Aristophanes.
    One of my favorites.
    I highly recommend reading it, if you haven't done so already.
     
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  17. Johann

    Johann Well-Known Member

    I'm somewhat familiar with it - "The lioness on the cheese grater" etc. Aristophanes was a fun dude! I like Lysistrata as a person, too. Really powerful - and cerebral - women fascinate me. Yes - I should read the whole thing. Thanks!
     
  18. TeacherBelgium

    TeacherBelgium Well-Known Member

    Good luck with it.
    I love the feminist power that exudes from Lysistrata.
    The Ancient Greeks had way better writers than we will ever have.
     
  19. Johann

    Johann Well-Known Member

    Perhaps - but today's women are just as great as theirs! :)
     
  20. sanantone

    sanantone Well-Known Member

    Learn Greek and Hebrew through free sources and earn credits by passing Liberty's ICE exams.
     
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