Bill: You flatter me. I was accepted into a CA Approved University, becuse K-WU is state liscenced post secondary institution. While RA snobbery may shy from recognizing the value of a legal degree, many of the CA Approved Schools were receptive. For instance when inquiring at CPU, I was infomed that while K-W U has moved around, their programs were found to be sound. PWU, expressed simarly, stating that the course work is comparable to RA, but becuse they've moved around K-W U is prevented from reapplying for CA approval. As the matter of fact, all the CA SL schools I investigated would accept the K-W U BS Degree. I realize that PWU, CCU CPU, NU, SCUPS will never be callibrated to the level of a Harvard, however, I feel that I am not attending a degree mill, and the state has a adurious booard which regulates programs offered within it's boarder. Besides if I ever moved to CA, and I applied foir a position requiring a MS, and you applied, in CA our degrees would be yes - on PAR. Perhaps we can become neighbors?
RJT, Are you currently enrolled in a masters program at CCU? What is your ID number at the school? If not, what masters program at what school are you enrolled in? You haven't really told us. Veritas, Michael
Sorry, RJT, but I have to make this connection. You say CCU admitted you based upon a degree from a school operating in the state (California) without approval. This is tantamount to an RA school admitting you based upon a CCU degree. Actually, worse, given K-WU's "moving" twice more to avoid state regulators. I'd love to see some documentation of this alleged banishment of K-WU by BPPVE, the same outfit that tolerates Frederick Taylor, Pacific Wester, and the like.
RJT, I will assume that I am the Bill that you are referring to. If that is incorrect then please try to be more clear in the future. Bill: I must first preface my response with the observation that this post seems even more difficult to read than most of your illiterate posts. So if I've misunderstood something then I'm sorry, please feel free to correct my misunderstanding. RJT: You flatter me. Bill: I don't understand what statement I made that flattered you, perhaps I need to be more careful. RJT: I was accepted into a CA Approved University, becuse K-WU is state liscenced post secondary institution. While RA snobbery may shy from recognizing the value of a legal degree, many of the CA Approved Schools were receptive. For instance when inquiring at CPU, I was infomed that while K-W U has moved around, their programs were found to be sound. PWU, expressed simarly, stating that the course work is comparable to RA, but becuse they've moved around K-W U is prevented from reapplying for CA approval. As the matter of fact, all the CA SL schools I investigated would accept the K-W U BS Degree. I realize that PWU, CCU CPU, NU, SCUPS will never be callibrated to the level of a Harvard, however, I feel that I am not attending a degree mill, and the state has a adurious booard which regulates programs offered within it's boarder. Bill: Congratulations on your acceptance. However, I must temper this with some suspicion. I do not believe your assertion that you were accepted into CCU because K-W is a state licensed post secondary institution, even if you were accepted. Please provide me one shred of evidence that this assertion is true. You have been caught in so many lies in your posts that I will not believe anything you say without some kind of supporting evidence. Bill: I must once again add the caveat to your assertion that a K-W degree is legal with the warning that while a K-W degree is legal in some states it is also illegal in multple states and gray in some others. Bill: If you are denying that CCU is a degree mill then I will state for the record again that I do not call CCU a degree mill. If you are claiming that your acceptance into a CA SL school and your various conversations with salesmen telling you what you want to hear somehow means that K-W is not a degree mill then I will just have to say that your gullibility on this point is an indication that my current best guess that you're a shill or a troll may need to be reevaluated because perhaps you truely are gullible enough to be what you claim. RJT: Besides if I ever moved to CA, and I applied foir a position requiring a MS, and you applied, in CA our degrees would be yes - on PAR. Bill: I can tell you right now that if you applied at the company I work at in the Human Resources department for anything besides a secretarial position, you would have zero chance of being accepted without an RA degree or the foreign equivalent. If what you are trying to do is argue that unaccredited degrees are treated on par with RA degrees then I have to say that you are plan wrong. I find it very difficult believing that someone that claims to be a specialist in recruiting could actually believe this. Perhaps I'm just misunderstanding your point? RJT: Perhaps we can become neighbors? Bill: I wouldn't have any big problem greeting you as a neighbor. I wouldn't loan you my car without getting to know you better but you might make a most entertaining neighbor.
Clarification Let me clarify that I've stated all along that I am enrolled in a CA Approved School, however, it was assumed that I meant CCU, because I responded to posts regarding. I am actually enrolled in PWU. However, I have explored and had converstaions with the following CA Approved Schools: SCUPS, CPU, CCU. All were receptive to accepting my K-W U undergraduate degree. I even spoke with the vernable Dr. Dalton, which, impressed me greatly. I chose PWU because I really liked their prgram, and cost. Might I say that I still have to complete the portfolio for ACE credit, eight classes, and a Masters Project. I felt that the degree requiremnets were more suited to my situation, because the choice of classes was wider, and I was interested in doing the Research project in HR. Had I not enrolled in PWU, CPU and SCUPS, were also highly calibrated considerations. Also, Century University was a possibility. RJT PS - Bill, I find it hard to believe that in CA, your employer would not consider a CA Approved School. Remember the term RA Snobery? If your employer would not consider degrees that are perfectly legal in it's own state, perhaps they need to reevaluate fair hiring evaluative practices.
My ordainment in the Universal Life Church was legal too, but I hardly expect a real church to offer me a pastorate based on my ULC credentials.
Re: Clarification There are many employers (including my own) that will only hire from what they consider top level schools. For example, they recruit from the University of California system but don't hire graduates from the California State University system. You apparently claim to be the director of recruiting for two business units of Unisys and you don't know this? Add to that your totally clueless statement that seems to say that you think that this might violate fair hiring practices and I'm sorry, RJT, I find it absolutely impossible to believe that you could possibly be what you claim to be. I say it once again, RJT, you are not telling the truth. P.S. Thank you for correcting the misunderstanding on you going to CCU.
The reason you didn't get all those pastoral positions, Charles, is because you used the wrong nomenclature--not because of the ULC credential. All those deacons and pulpit committee members knew something was up when you said I received my ORDAINMENT through ULC. Next time tell them you received your ORDINATION through ULC.
Re: Re: Clarification I guess if I ever decide to bad mouth CCU I'm back to just the old unaccredited line.
PWU approved in California? I was just snooping around the PWU web site, and I didn’t see anything that it was licensed by the State of California. They do have offices here, but it seems to be located in Hawaii, and it had some stuff from the Hawaii legislature? although it didn’t look like approval. Any comments, input? Veritas, Michael
Spoke too soon I asked too soon before doing my homework! Was just on the CPEC site and they are approved in California. But why dont they list that important fact on thier web site? Veritas, Michael
