First Brexit, then Trump. Next, Italy?

Discussion in 'Political Discussions' started by Kizmet, Nov 17, 2016.

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  1. Kizmet

    Kizmet Moderator

  2. TomE

    TomE New Member

    I can see Italy happening, but I give a better shot to Holland and then possibly to France (I doubt they would leave the EU, but Le Pen would be the equivalent of Trump). If the EU keeps pushing immigration quotas, many of Eastern states (CR, Slovakia, Hungary, Poland) could leave en masse.
     
  3. jhp

    jhp Member

    Italy cannot afford to, no matter how much she wants to.
     
  4. TomE

    TomE New Member

    I don't think that article is implying that Italians/Italy wants to leave the EU as much as it is likening the recent populist wave of victories throughout the West to the current political situation in Italy. I agree that it would be nearly impossible for any of the PIGS to leave the EU at this point and to maintain and degree of financial solvency.
     
  5. TomE

    TomE New Member

  6. RAM PhD

    RAM PhD Member

    Check MSNBC's ongoing exit polls.
     
  7. Kizmet

    Kizmet Moderator

  8. SteveFoerster

    SteveFoerster Resident Gadfly Staff Member

    The Austrians didn't go with the Eurosceptic presidential candidate, though, so it's not all bad news for EUtopians.
     
  9. TomE

    TomE New Member

    Per that earlier exchange we were having, what do you think the Euro's prospects are at this point? Is is time to put in the big short or do you think we're going to have to see a "Departugal" or "Czech Out" before we start to see some more movement?
     
  10. Kizmet

    Kizmet Moderator

    Sort of like jenga.
     
  11. Kizmet

    Kizmet Moderator

  12. SteveFoerster

    SteveFoerster Resident Gadfly Staff Member

    Well, predicting the future is a tough racket. But I will say that I only have about 100 Euros, and that only for when I'm passing through the French islands on my way around the Caribbean.
     
  13. TomE

    TomE New Member

    I wonder what specifically makes these current trends "far-right" as opposed to simply being classified as "right"? Perhaps much of Europe, particularly Western Europe, has moved so far left that these movements are classified in a more extreme manner than is warranted.

    ...or having "far-right" in the title leads to more clicks!
     
  14. SteveFoerster

    SteveFoerster Resident Gadfly Staff Member

    Exactly the last thing, I expect.

    I mean, just tell me the facts and I'll decide for myself if I think they're far right, centre-right, or what have you.
     
  15. TomE

    TomE New Member

    Wait. There are instances when media sources with political leaning biases will tell us JUST the 'facts"? Where are these wonderful sources and why don't I know about them??!! :silly:
     
  16. Kizmet

    Kizmet Moderator

    I think sometimes there are media news sources who give just the facts. However, they do not always give all the facts. As we know, a lie of omission is just as serious as a lie of commission.
     
  17. decimon

    decimon Well-Known Member


    Leads to more clucks. Clusterclucking in fashionable venues.
     
  18. TomE

    TomE New Member

    I agree and it can also be important to remember that in many parts of the world, so much of the news is State-run news. When those with political power have the power to decide what news should go out...well...I'm pretty sure that all the facts definitely aren't getting out!
     

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