Film maker should be shipped to the Mideast

Discussion in 'Political Discussions' started by Abner, Sep 14, 2012.

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  1. ryoder

    ryoder New Member

    Excellent synopsis of the situation.

     
  2. ryoder

    ryoder New Member

    It starts with a video, then its a rap song, then its women wearing shorts that throws people into a frenzy. We cannot live in fear.
     
  3. I'm confused. I don't see the logical connection of how fear is involved. Unless your implying that the resulting actions are to induce fear. Arguably, we are a very long way from "living in fear". I think there is a thin line between respect and fear and people often get the two confused. I'm not saying that's particularly the case in this situation but I see it happening a lot.

    I hope everyone does realise that there are limits on "free" speech. Some of those limits are de jure and some are de facto.
     
  4. SteveFoerster

    SteveFoerster Resident Gadfly Staff Member

    For what, exactly?
     
  5. ryoder

    ryoder New Member

    Living in fear. An old woman slices a young woman's eyes with razor blades because she wears mascara in an Arab country. That creates fear in the population. More young women are afraid to wear mascara, short shorts or whatever because they fear being gang raped, assaulted, stoned or thrown in jail.



     
  6. Your example represents a very small spectrum of the picture. While that may hold true for some, it doesn't hold true for the majority (to my knowledge) of those that live in Arab countries. It's a lifestyle. A cultural/historical thing. Most live the way they live because they have always lived it. Heck half barely realize there is a "better" life out there. I thought you were referencing America. That's why I stated we are a long way away from that. People think it's a God given right that we can say "what we want to when we want to" or do as we please. In reality things aren't that simple.

    In the bigger picture of things the Arab countries aren't that much different from we are. At least from the conceptual standpoint. They have their own rules that they go by. We just disagree with them because ours are different. They have people that attempt to instill fear into the population just like we do. They have nutballs, and wackos that are portraying images (some false, some true) just like we do.
     
  7. BillDayson

    BillDayson New Member

    If we are going to censor ourselves to the point of ensuring that nothing we say or do can possibly offend anyone, then suicide would seem to be our only option. If people already hate us, then our every action, even our very existence, could represent an occasion for expression of that hatred.

    One thing that annoys me is the implicit assumption that Muslims are mindless automatons, without humanity or personal responsibility. They have these big red push-buttons on them, and if those buttons are pushed, then they act violently. So the responsibility for preventing their violence isn't theirs at all, it's ours, because we are the ones that supposedly push the button and we are the ones who possess the power of choice.

    It's part of a larger cultural tendency that argues that whatever problems exist out there in the world are all ultimately our doing and our responsibility. So the only solution for the world's problems is radical social change here in the West. That's where contemporary political rhetoric always seems to end up.
     
  8. 03310151

    03310151 Active Member

    Oh boy, not again.
     
  9. Ian Anderson

    Ian Anderson Active Member

    Deportation of a non-citizen (including green card holders) can occur if the non-citizen is convicted of a crime with a sentence of one year or more. Sam Bacile was sentenced to 21-months in jail; however since he is a US Citizen deportation would not apply to him.
     
  10. Abner

    Abner Well-Known Member

    Lucky him. Apparently this miscreant has a penchant for fraud and making up meth cooking kitchens.

    Abner
     

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