Fake grades scandal at University of Michigan leads to accreditation board investigation

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  1. Dustin

    Dustin Well-Known Member

    Dustin, Jun 16, 2023
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  2. MaceWindu

    MaceWindu Active Member

    Wonder what the accrediting board will do for punishment?
     
    MaceWindu, Jun 17, 2023
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  3. Johann

    Johann Well-Known Member

    "Git th' rope, Clem."

    Seriously, I'm not sure. In the article, a school spokesperson mentioned that the school and the accreditor have a 100+ year relationship. I doubt even this will end it - though I'd like that. What the school is accused of is an AWFUL thing to do.

    My guess - probation or even show cause, from the accreditor. A period of penance and that's it. But, shouldn't there be criminal charges here? That might change the picture!
     
    Johann, Jun 17, 2023
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  4. Asymptote

    Asymptote Active Member

    What’s a “fake grade”? Is that like getting a G+ or an R- or something outside the usual A, B, C, D, F spectrum?
     
    Asymptote, Jun 17, 2023
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  5. Johann

    Johann Well-Known Member

    Of course not. It's a "grade of convenience" (frequently "A") fraudulently picked out of the air - not based on student's exam or term work performance. Fake = dishonest. See the article.
     
    Johann, Jun 17, 2023
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  6. Bill Huffman

    Bill Huffman Well-Known Member

    I took it as a joke. Sort of like my joke to my wife yesterday. She asked, "Can you wipe the cabinet above the stove. It's dirty." I answered, "It's not dirty." I get a dirty look from my wife. I explain, "It's greasy not dirty. There's no dirt just grease."
     
    Bill Huffman, Jun 17, 2023
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  7. freeloader

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    Ha! I got an R- in 1st grade. We were graded on “conduct” and the grading scale was Respectful (R) or Disrespectful (D). I was generally respectful, but talked too much, so got an R-.
     
    freeloader, Jun 17, 2023
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  8. SteveFoerster

    SteveFoerster Resident Gadfly Staff Member

    Did you give her a greasy look in return?

    Anyway, I'm not entirely unsympathetic to the administration's position. In that in the absence of being able to give a student a grade from the instructor-of-record, I can at least understand giving students a "benefit of the doubt" A, since the situation is not the students' fault.

    That said, that's something that should be done openly, in the light of day, not in secrecy. That's where they totally lose me.
     
    SteveFoerster, Jun 17, 2023
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  9. Johann

    Johann Well-Known Member

    Maybe they'll totally lose their accreditation, too. Or maybe not. That would be an awful result for the students... Perhaps just totally losing their top administration and getting a new one is a better option. Send a couple of the former top honchos who hatched this to the juzgado. It would possibly show other schools what NOT to do.

    "Awright, Clem. Put th' rope away agin'. Man sez no hangin' t'day after all."
     
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    Johann, Jun 17, 2023
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  10. SteveFoerster

    SteveFoerster Resident Gadfly Staff Member

    I'll go out on a limb here and predict that the University of Michigan doesn't lose its accreditation and that none of its administrators go to prison.
     
    SteveFoerster, Jun 18, 2023
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  11. Bill Huffman

    Bill Huffman Well-Known Member

    I think that limb is at least 6 inches in diameter and on a very healthy tree.
     
    Bill Huffman, Jun 18, 2023
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  12. Johann

    Johann Well-Known Member

    "Git th' chainsaw, Clem!" :)
     
    Johann, Jun 20, 2023
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