EdD from Brenau University

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  1. SteveFoerster

    SteveFoerster Resident Gadfly Staff Member

    Saw an ad for this today. It's a private university in Georgia that I've never heard of before, and total tuition is north of $50K, so I'm not sure why anyone who doesn't need a top tier school would choose this over alternatives that cost half as much.

    Still, this is what we do here, so here it is: https://edd.brenau.edu/
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    In 2006, I considered an MBA from Brenau University via distance learning under the Post 9/11 GI Bill Yellow Ribbon Program.. Brenau University's EdD in the $50K is quite expensive for a not well known Liberal Arts college. With the price tag range, Northeastern University's program sounds better and well known school.
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  3. Dustin

    Dustin Well-Known Member

    Oof, I just saw a LinkedIn ad for their ABD EdD. Three letters of reference and an active teaching license (for 2 of the 3 concentrations) and it still requires 5 education and 2 research methods courses before the dissertation phase. Is that common in ABD programs?

    Their online MEd is $755 an hour compared to the $656 for face-to-face instruction. That's unusual. Doctoral tuition is $950 x 26 hours = $25,650 for the ABD or $51,300 (as noted above) for the full program.
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  4. SteveFoerster

    SteveFoerster Resident Gadfly Staff Member

    The ones I've seen seemed mostly like they expected you were ready to start, and didn't require research methods courses much less more subject matter coursework. What you're describing doesn't sound like ABD completion at all.
  5. Dustin

    Dustin Well-Known Member

    Weird! It ends up being half the credits of the "full" program but apparently still way too many.
  6. chrisjm18

    chrisjm18 Well-Known Member

    So, I looked up a few Ed.D. ABD programs. Here's the number of credits student must complete in each ABD program:

    Gwynedd Mercy University - 27 credits
    Alverno College - 27 credits
    American College of Education- 37 credits
    Maryville University - 20 credits
    Nova Southeastern University - 27 credits
    Trident University - 24 credits
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  7. SteveFoerster

    SteveFoerster Resident Gadfly Staff Member

    That's interesting, although the number of credit hours can be misleading. Assuming the time to write a dissertation is around the same no matter where, "total cost of ownership" and whether additional coursework or research methods courses are required first may be more of a factor in an ABD completion program. (Of course, if one is rusty on research methods, one might want to retake such a course, so there's that, too.)
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  9. Neuhaus

    Neuhaus Well-Known Member

    I feel like this opens up the possibility of me claiming a doctorate "All but dissertation, coursework and matriculation."
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  10. SteveFoerster

    SteveFoerster Resident Gadfly Staff Member

    All But Coursework, Dissertation, and Entry:

    Maniac Craniac, PhD (abcde)
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  11. Dustin

    Dustin Well-Known Member

    These Executive EdD and Executive DBA programs (I talked about one here: https://www.degreeinfo.com/index.php?threads/executive-dba-aacsb-accredited.57589/) strike me as an attempt to compress what's already designed to be part-time into something that robs you of the benefits of learning how to do independent research by pushing you along so much. Of course I'm NOT speaking from experience so maybe I'm missing something obvious.

    Isn't an EdD by nature designed for experienced professionals and executives?
  12. Neuhaus

    Neuhaus Well-Known Member

    Professional doctorates have not really had that alignment for a very long time.

    It has been many decades in the making where there have been EdD programs that are licensure qualifying to work as a psychologist and require no experience, study or research in the field of education. They are indistinguishable from a PhD in Clinical Psych just with a different title.

    We are seeing Psy.D. degrees offered in fields that, historically, would never have been offered in. at Marywood University it's a fairly rigid 4 year program that mimics medical school in having a coursework phase followed by clinical rotations. Elsewhere, you can earn a Psy.D. in pastoral counseling or industrial and organizational psychology with just some courses.

    Northcentral now offers a DBA in IO Psychology. You can get a DBA, PhD, EdD or D.Min. in Leadership.

    I'm not exactly sure why things are getting all topsy turvy in doctoral land but it's been going this way for quite a while. We're also seeing a push, even within academia, to make "PhD" and "doctorate" interchangeable to the point where not just an individual, but their academic institution, may casually refer to a person having earned their PhD when they actually earned some other professional doctorate.

    Like something being Arts or Sciences (as in, B.S. or B.A.) these distinctions seem to be as important to the schools as whether they offer their diplomas in English or Latin.

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