Domuni University

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  1. Saiman

    Saiman New Member

    Any more comments

    Hi all

    any more comments regarding this university. I am seriously considering giving it a go. This looks exactly what I was looking for and it is in my price range living in South Africa.
     
  2. mxatzop

    mxatzop New Member

    Hello, did the University of Lorraine respond?
     
  3. decimon

    decimon Well-Known Member

  4. mxatzop

    mxatzop New Member

    Here is the answer form the Domuni University:"The agreement with the Angelicum is a certification, this means that some Domuni enrolled students have the opportunity, validating their curriculum Domuni to obtain the diploma of the Angelicum without being registered.
    The agreement with the University of Lorraine is not a certification but a convention. It is an agreement of a different and specific nature of the French system of higher education. French universities are in fact two types: private and public. Public universities deliver a state diploma, which is in essence not the case of private universities. An agreement allows, through an agreement signed between a private institution and a public institution, obtaining by some students of a private university to get the state diploma, being in addition to their inclusion in private university, enrolled in the public university. It is therefore an agreement between two partner institutions. You can find the details of the French legislation on the subject on the following web page: Les établissements d'enseignement supérieur privés - ESR : enseignementsup-recherche.gouv.fr. The convention is an internal administrative document to the institutions acting on their agreement, it is not likely to be published. This is why it is not mentioned on either the website Domuni nor on the website of the University of Lorraine"
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  5. Jahaza

    Jahaza Member

  6. kebrit

    kebrit New Member

    is it a legit university?
     
  7. Steve Levicoff

    Steve Levicoff Well-Known Member

    Kebrit, you should know better than to ask that. You have posted 27 messages over an 18-year period, having joined this forum in 2002 (although your last post was eight years ago).

    Therefore, having been at least a reader here for 18 years, you should already be aware that if you feel compelled to ask if an entity is a legit university, then it is likely not a legit university.

    (Pardon me for appearing xenophobic, but there sure are a lot of dumb-ass Europeans out there.) :D
     
  8. AsianStew

    AsianStew Active Member

    OMG, 18 years I've been on this board as well... my goodness, times flies when you're learning... Oh, and to answer Kebrit, no, the school doesn't really have accreditation, but it may be legit or legal to run as a university in France, in other countries, it's a no.
     
  9. Johann

    Johann Well-Known Member

    Kebrit's name would appear to be Arabic. It's also a place-name in Iran. You can look it up.

    There sure are some dumb-ass, xenophobic-looking Americans around here. :D
     
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  10. Johann

    Johann Well-Known Member

    If the Angelicum in Rome says Domuni's degrees in Roman Catholic religion are approved by them - then they are good - as good as Roman Catholic religious studies can get.. If you're asking if they will get you advanced standing for secular study - no, they most likely won't.

    The religious degrees are legit - i.e. approved by the Roman Catholic religious authorities. For secular study -- YMMV. Likely won't get you anywhere in the outside world.

    Might get you into Heaven (?) - won't likely get you a job - or into a secular university program.
     
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  11. kebrit

    kebrit New Member

    (Pardon me for appearing xenophobic, but there sure are a lot of dumb-ass Europeans out there.) :D[/QUOTE]

    Not all the Americans are xenophobic, the last election is a testimony to that.
     
  12. Mac Juli

    Mac Juli Well-Known Member

    They partner. among other, with the (totally legit) Belgian University of Louvain. This alone does not make them more or less legitimate, but it might be a clue that they are, likely, not bogus.
     
  13. nyvrem

    nyvrem Active Member

    need a degree to enter heaven now ?
     
  14. Johann

    Johann Well-Known Member

    I can only repeat what I was told: "No, but you DO need to be a MUCH better guitar player."
    It's a slow process, but I'm trying.... :)
     
  15. Johann

    Johann Well-Known Member

    Or, there's the joke I stole from the radio this morning:

    I asked my phone, "Siri, do I need a degree to get into Heaven?"
    Answer: "I'm Alexa, you moron!"
     
  16. Messdiener

    Messdiener Member

    I only just discovered this now, but there are a still a few days left for some free courses from Domuni if anyone is interested.

    The three free courses are:
    • St Bonaventure the Preacher
    • The Gospel of St John
    • An Introduction to Thomas Aquinas
    Enjoy!
     
  17. Neuhaus

    Neuhaus Well-Known Member

    Part of the issue with this binary sort of question "Is it legit?" is that it fails to capture the nuance of the situation.

    1. Is this school a scam offering bogus credentials for no work? No
    2. Is this school operating without any authority? No
    3. Are the school's credentials accepted by other institutions where the credibility is beyond question? Yes.
    4. Is it recognized by a recognized body? Yes, if you consider the Vatican to be a suitable authority.

    That said, your mileage is always going to vary. You can get a degree from the Angelicum and, if your goal is to work within the Roman Catholic Church, you're probably good to go. One of my theology professors at the University of Scranton, a layman, held a Doctor of Sacred Theology (most unfortunately abbreviated S.T.D.) from the Angelicum. The guy has never wanted for work within the theology departments of seminaries and Catholic universities and colleges. But for all of that, he probably couldn't get a job as an adjunct at the University of Phoenix. Field of study can be incredibly limiting especially if you're trying to color outside of the lines by going some less than traditional route.

    Whether your Certificate in Theology is a piece of cake or an arduous haul, the utility of it is going to lie solely in the acceptance by the faith group of your choice. That's it. There is no secular employer who is going to care about your theological education unless it is for one of the very few secular positions requiring theological education (pretty much chaplaincy). If the Angelicum is down with this school then their acceptance within the Roman Catholic Church should be solid. But what, exactly, does that mean? If you're in the running for priesthood then your diocese or order would be guiding your education. And if you're a layperson then your options for applying a theological education are rather limited. You can teach. A bachelors from here would probably satisfy a bachelors requirement for a job with a diocese or a Catholic university even if your role wasn't teaching. Yay?

    If you're in the US and want a graduate theological credential you're probably better off with St. Joseph's College of Maine. RA and no need for any sort of credit evaluation if you wanted to go on and further your studies. If you just want a certificate in philosophy or theology then you could do far worse than 150 Euro per course for 5 courses. But I'd be curious as to why this school instead of say, the Priory Institute or the Carmelite Institute of Britain and Ireland.

    Unless someone disputes the validity of the Vatican's degree authorization there is no reason to say this school is not legitimate.

    Is it worth your time and money? Honestly, vanity aside, the Angelicum wouldn't be worth the time and money for most people so why is this any different?
     
  18. SteveFoerster

    SteveFoerster Resident Gadfly Staff Member

    I understood your point, but this made me wonder what the theology department at the University of Phoenix would look like. ;)
     
  19. Neuhaus

    Neuhaus Well-Known Member

    I imagine the market research department would work out which theology was likely to resonate with the most number of people and offer the courses at the highest tolerance that demographic is likely to have.
     
  20. Jahaza

    Jahaza Member

    Every three years the Dominicans hold an international general chapter for the governance of the order. The most recent one had this to say about Domuni:

    DOMUNI Universitas
    367. [GRATULATIO] We congratulate the leaders of DOMUNI Universitas for the considerable development of its online formation programs, offered in five languages, as well as its financial autonomy. This innovative response to an apostolic, academic, theological, and pastoral need deserves to be developed.
    368. [COMMENDATION] We recommend that DOMUNI Universitas put in place a number of courses (between 15 and 30 hours) on permanent formation in the languages of the Order. The English version ought to be prepared in close collaboration with the Angelicum. This online material can also be part of the Dominican Renewal Program each year.
    369. [COMMENDATION] We recommend that DOMUNI Universitas regularly publicize its formation programs to different entities of the Order in order that they might be widely diffused and used as they are meant to be.
    370. [COMMISSION] We charge the Master of the Order and the General Council to accompany DOMUNI Universitas by declaring it an “Activity under the vigilance of the Master of the Order” for six years. This support will take the form of a committee of professionalization made up of experts. The committee, in dialogue with the leaders of DOMUNI Universitas, will help DOMUNI Universitas with its recommendations to put in place the academic criteria highlighted by the certification process undertaken in Switzerland: a scientific council, full-time professors, research activities, coherence between courses, and governance.​

    Having observed Domuni for a number of years, their validation schemes seem to come and go... there was one with the University of Lorraine, one with the Angelicum for a while, and one where Domuni courses could give advanced standing for a degree at Louvain. I find this somewhat concerning.

    The Dominicans certainly recognize that Domuni is a work of the order, but as far as I can tell, it's not currently affiliated with the Angelicum for the awarding of degrees anymore, nor am I sure that a first cycle degree from Domuni would admit one to studies for a second cycle degree at the Angelicum or another Roman university. The General Chapter seems to be pushing it towards professionalization and regularization of its status, but it doesn't seem to be there yet.

    "Is it worth your time and money? Honestly, vanity aside, the Angelicum wouldn't be worth the time and money for most people so why is this any different?"

    A degree from the Angelicum would be recognized without a doubt within the Church though for seminary or school teaching jobs, admission to further studies (in theology or in canon law, which requires a theology degree as a prerequisite) and to fulfill the educational requirements for ordination. It would also be acceptable for teaching jobs in most Catholic or ecumenical university theology faculties. I'd be very hesitant to assume that a Domuni degree would have currency for any of those applications.
     

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