DL Law Questions and thoughts.

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  1. nosborne48

    nosborne48 Well-Known Member

    Oak Brook

    Interesting development. A friend of mine is in the midst of Oak Brook's admissions process. He has to write a few pare essay concerning a book titled, "Renewing Your Life Through Law Study" or something like that. I haven't looked at it, no reason to, but I understand from my friend, a committed Christian, BTW, that it is a religious tract.

    He's beginning to have doubts about the whole enterprise. I reminded him that part of Oak Brook's Vision Statement or some such document is a statement to the effect that evolution is a false religion. That didn't stick well at all, first, because he knows better and second because such a doctrine has nothing to do with studying law.


    Maybe he'll reconsider and go with NWCU. He has good R/A B.S. and M.B.A. degrees and is no fool. He'll succeed whatever choice he makes.
     
  2. novemberdude

    novemberdude New Member

    Re: Oak Brook

    Next you'll be telling us you believe this whole "the world is round" thing. ;)

    ;)
     
  3. nosborne48

    nosborne48 Well-Known Member

    novemberdude,

    You know, it's weird you saying that.

    The bible seems to say, and for centuries the Church enforced the view, that the sun rose and set over the fixed earth. Remember the trial of Gallileo?

    The Church was FINALLY forced to admit that the sun is at the center of the solar system and Earth is one of several plantes. This was absolutely heresy, you know.

    Now, why do the fundamentalists fight evolution when they have to admit that they lost the heliocentric fight/ Don't they read history? Don't they realize that they have NEVER succeeded in substituting superstition for science?

    The reason I'm thinking about all this is that, rather than studying jurisprudence like I should be doing, I've been reading up on sundials. It's absolutely AMAZING how much information about the Solar System can be deduced with a compass and a straightedge.
     
  4. John Bear

    John Bear Senior Member

    novemberdude:
    "I was totally unaware that they [Phoenix] were ever a laughingstock in terms of their accreditation chances."

    John Bear:

    Thing 1: They moved from California to Arizona after an extremely negative report from the regional accreditor from California, the Western Association.

    Thing 2: At the time of their move to Arizona (which, inexplicably, is in the North Central region, although neither north nor central), the two major education associations in Arizona -- one of universities, the other of faculty -- passed resolutions urging North Central not to accredit Phoenix, about which they had very unkind things to say.

    Thing 3: When I wrote about Thing 2 in an early edition of Bear's Guide, I received an urgent "cease and desist" order from a Phoenix law firm with about 17,000 lawyers on their engraved letterhead, demanding that I never write about this matter, and furthermore destroy all copies of my book in which this was mentioned.

    Being young(er) and insecur(er), I agreed to comply with the first, and asked them for advice on how to deal with the second, given that the many thousands of copies were in many thousands of private hands, mostly unknown to me. They never responded. I was sorely tempted to send them a photo like the one that follows, but the practical member of my household talked me out of it.
     

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  5. DesElms

    DesElms New Member

    Flatearth, heresy, Santayana, and sundials.

    What? It's not flat? But it looks flat... from here, at any rate!

    [Damn! I thought it was flat! Learn sumthin' new, I guess.]

    Those are rhetorical questions, right? ;)

    And how cool an inexpensive sundial from a local garden shop can be in one's back yard. I've had one for years. I've been trying to figure out how to wear a small one on my wrist, like Fred Flintstone... but so far it isn't working out too well -- especially at night.

    [Tell 'em how well the car with no floorboard has been workin' out, too, Barney Rubble.]
     
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  6. little fauss

    little fauss New Member

    Actually, and you know this--or should--the Hebrew scriptures specifically refer to the world as being round or a "curve"; it's not the Psalmist's fault that certain bigots a couple millenia later would enforce this bixarre flat notion against those more enlightened.

    As for evolution of the macro/Darwin sort, you need to educate yourself on this as well, and take a look at the "irreducible complexity" problems with Darwin's theory. This isn't the rant of a few right wing zealots; it's becoming a more accepted theory among microbiologists (except for those, that, like their predecessors the flat earthers, are jelously clinging to their Derwinic faith and persecuting any "heretics".

    Read Behe's book "Darwin's Black Box", and read some other theorists of intelligent design who are higher-regarded than Behe, Ivy League PhD and all.
     
  7. decimon

    decimon Well-Known Member

    Re: Flatearth, heresy, Santayana, and sundials.

    It was back in the '60s. I know because I once fell off the edge.
     
  8. David Boyd

    David Boyd New Member

    Since John Sperling wrote much more about UOP’s early issues in his autobiography, I would guess you’re free to write about it now.

    My favorite story was that once the University of Arizona discovered that UOP was to be accredited by NCA, they wanted to introduce a bill in the legislature that would move all Arizona schools to the WASC region.
     
  9. novemberdude

    novemberdude New Member

    Thanks, that was very interesting. I never cease to be amazed at how involved the whole issue of accreditation can be in the US. In Canada you go the local University, and don't ask questions.

    Out of curiousity, was UoP called something different when they were in California?


     

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