distance learning PhD in Law

Discussion in 'General Distance Learning Discussions' started by bo79, Apr 25, 2005.

  1. bo79

    bo79 New Member

    Dose anyone here have any experience with the distance learning PhD in Law offered by University of Leicester? I just received the information package about the program in the mail today. It looks like a really good and solid PhD program.
  2. little fauss

    little fauss New Member

    That does look like the real deal, and cheap to boot. Leicester's a legit school, have a good B-school, ranked in top 30% or so of UK programs; likely the law school's solid also.

    So long as someone in U.S. could write dissertation on area of U.S. law or Int'l law, might possibly have some utility in U.S. for one seeking academic career; might help in getting tenure-eligible position teaching biz law at a B-school or perhaps even overcome slightly-inadequate J.D. grades and get someone considered for law school faculty (probably wouldn't be much help for me, who just graduated in top 45% of class--not a chance at law school academic career).
  3. nosborne48

    nosborne48 Well-Known Member

    It's brand new.

    I think it requires periodic weekend "residencies" during the coursework phase, doesn't it?
  4. bo79

    bo79 New Member

    I have talked with the law school at University of Leicester about this, and was told that in the distance learning PhD in Law the student should expect to spend 2-3 weeks per year on campus. Which I think is pretty good.
  5. DesElms

    DesElms New Member

    As long as said two to three weeks per year is all at once, per year. It would suck to be in the U.S. and have to do a certain amount of residential study per semester or, worse, per course. One could end-up paying $5,000 for the degree and $5,000 more for airfare! (An exaggeration, but you get my point.)
  6. B Lee

    B Lee New Member

    Will you apply for this DL course?
  7. bo79

    bo79 New Member

    I probably will. PhD is something I am considering doing down the road
  8. B Lee

    B Lee New Member

    I will probably too, but I need to make sure whether I will be able to achieve the residential requirement (i.e. 2-3 weeks on campus per year) including research training weeks prior to application; otherwise, I will apply for the part-time SJD/JSD program (by taught component and dissertation) in HK.
  9. LadyExecutive

    LadyExecutive Member

    Doctor of Juridical Science

    Have you considered the Doctor of Juridical Science offered by Deakin University? I was told today, by a friend of mine that Deakin offers this program to international students at the research level and does not require the student to make any on campus appearances. I am looking for confirmation on this and as such plan to make a phone call to them this week.
  10. Jack Tracey

    Jack Tracey New Member

    I know next to nothing about the study of Law and how one might begin to compare one program to another but I would point out that there are 3 Doctoral degree programs in Law offered by UNISA. They are in Criminal and Procedural Law and Private Law. Some people eschew UNISA for whatever reason(s) but I thought I might inject the information into the discussion in any case.
  11. LadyExecutive

    LadyExecutive Member


    Jack: Thank you for the valuable input. I guess they recently added those programs - which is a good thing. I havent checked recently but in the past I have been very disappointed with how UNISA on several ocassions has either taken a century to respond to my simple questions, or not responded to my questions at all. Because of that, I have placed them on the back burner.

    As it stands now, I have been looking for a Ph.D program for sometime and due to my frustration, ended up applying to Nova Southeastern's program in Conflict Resolution. My first choice, as I have said before, would be Juridical Science or some closely related field. Which is why I expressed an interest in Deakin University.

    Incidently, I cannot thank you guys (generically speaking) enough for the tip regarding CUP's Masters of Legal Studies Program in Law & Public Policy. The program threw me up against the wall a few times but make no mistake, I'd fully, without any reservation whatsoever, recommend the program to anyone with the drive and discipline to undertake and agressive, quality and consistent program. And, Dr. Nemeth is the best, his staff is the best, they are excellent at responding to emails and they will help with any problem a student has or will ensure the student is helped.

    Any 'Deakonites' (a name I made up for Deakin Students) in this forum?

  12. B Lee

    B Lee New Member

    Re: Doctor of Juridical Science

    Thks for your information! Pls let us know your confirmation and other latest information about this SJD program (off campus) in due course. :)
  13. LadyExecutive

    LadyExecutive Member


    I was able to confirm that Deakin University does indeed offer the Doctor of Juridical Science to International Students through distance study without having to go on campus. If you would like to have the forms, they sent me, to be forwarded to you I'd be happy to do so. The degree is strictly through research.

    Call me insane, but I plan to work on this degree, if accepted, at the same time I work on the Nova Southeastern University PhD in Conflict Analysis.

    [email protected].

    All the best!
  14. Jack Tracey

    Jack Tracey New Member

    Insane is such a pejorative term. Perhaps we could agree on the term especially ambitious. Best wishes.
  15. Law

    Interesting program in College of the Humanities and Sciences (DETC)

    Master of Arts in Jurisprudence

    Is the first time I see an american Master in Jurisprudence

  16. DesElms

    DesElms New Member

    Re: Law

    Which doesn't make it necessarily potentially useful to anyone hoping to work in the field of law. It's not any kind of professional degree -- like an LLM, for example -- that is intended to look good behind "J.D." or anything like that. It's a philosophical sort of program for, in largest measure, those who aren't lawyers... or even those who work for them, or who work in the court houses, etc. It's important, I believe, for the reader to understand that. It's also, I notice, a little pricy... at least as far as DETC-accredited programs go.

    None of the above is to suggest that it's not an interesting-looking and completely worthwhile program. On the contrary... it even kinda' interests me... at least a little. I'm just tryin' to keep it in its proper perspective, generally.
  17. LadyExecutive

    LadyExecutive Member

    Jack Thanks

    Insane is such a pejorative term. Perhaps we could agree on the term especially ambitious. Best wishes.


    LOL, I like that Jack. I am keeping that quote.
  18. Testing

    Testing New Member

    Any one knows of other schools (non usa) for a DL doctorate (graduate level) in Law beside Deakin and Leicester?
  19. nosborne48

    nosborne48 Well-Known Member

    UNISA, as has been mentioned.

    What do you propose to do with such a degree?

    Twenty odd years ago, Stanford University Law School created the Master of Jurisprudence. It comprised the first three semesters of their J.D. program. It had the same entrance requirements as the J.D. and, since these students took up the same space in first year classes as J.D. students, I imagine that it was just as hard to get in. It died shortly after birth; what would be the POINT of such a degree when, in a mere three additional semesters, you get the J.D.? Also, IIRC, completion of the M.J. did not guarantee admission to the J.D program, so it wasn't intended as a "stepping stone".
  20. nosborne48

    nosborne48 Well-Known Member

    CHS' program IS interesting but it is even further removed from actual law, I think, than DesElms suggests. The catalog description lists many major general philosophers in its reading list but excludes virtually EVERY major modern scholar of jurisprudence! The only name on the list that I have had to study is Hobbes.

    They don't mention Dworkin, H.L.A. Hart, Raz, Finnis, Austin, or even Mill. There is also not a single Marxist or critical legal studies author (an omission with which I entirely agree except that one should study nonsense to a degree sufficient to be able to identify nonsense when one sees it)

    FWITW, the objective of the program is to equip the student with the ability to design further liberal arts studies for himself. A worthy objective and one which can be met by systematic study of virtually ANY area of philosophy, so I don't mean to suggesat that there's anything WRONG with this program. But it isn't jurisprudence as a modern legal scholar would understand the term.

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