Distance EdD or PhD in education by dissertation (or Ed.S. transfer)

Discussion in 'General Distance Learning Discussions' started by StefanM, Oct 24, 2011.

  1. StefanM

    StefanM New Member

    Does anyone know of an EdD or PhD program in education that consists entirely of the dissertation?

    I am in the process of completing my Ed.S. at Liberty, but I'm not sure I want to continue through the Ed.D. program there. I am interested in seeing if there are any overseas programs. I would also be interested in EdD/PhD programs with generous transfer policies for Ed.S. holders.

    The problem is that with my Ed.S. I will not have a thesis component. It has a capstone requirement of a publication-quality journal article, but I'm not sure if this would work at a place like UNISA.

    Any suggestions?
  2. Randell1234

    Randell1234 Moderator Staff Member

    No advice, but I do have a question. You say, "I am in the process of completing my Ed.S." Are you almost done already?
  3. Kizmet

    Kizmet Moderator Staff Member

    If you enroll in a dissertation-only program then you should plan on 5 years of work, regardless of previous research.
  4. BrianH

    BrianH Member

    It is strange how different the requirements can be for the Ed.S. We have a Field Study that smells, looks, and quacks like a thesis or dissertation of around 50-75 pages.
    Oh well...
    Anyway, the experts know about overseas. I will let them answer.
    Liberty's Ed.D.(which you know I am sure) will only be 36 hours with the Ed.S.
    ORU will take the entire Ed.S. and that leaves 30 hours to finish.
  5. StefanM

    StefanM New Member

    No, I'm just in my second semester. I should finish in early fall 2012 or summer 2012, depending on how the courses fall.
  6. Cyber

    Cyber New Member

    How many credits are you looking transfer into the PhD/EdD? Keiser University, though expensive, accepts 6 credits into their PhD in Instructional Design and Technology or PhD in Educational Leadership. If you are open to getting a doctorate in management (the Conflict Management specialism may complement your "education" background), Sullivan University allow considerable amount of post-master credits into their PhD in Management; that is, if you are open to getting a PhD in Management.

    If a degree from an oversea school would suffice, I suspect Open University Malaysia would accept some credits into their EdD or PhD in Education, as long as the credits are above master degree level. Now, if none of those options work, you may give the new Doctorate in School Improvement program a shot. Offered by the University of West Georgia, and at a tuition rate of $271 per credit hour, this 100% doctorate program from a solid state school is a real value for money, even if you have to shelve your EdS credits from liberty. I know you are interested in UNISA, let me just say that their rigid admission requirement, in terms of prior education/degree, many have you wasting many more years in a lateral program, just to meet those requirements. Not a practical option, for some of us.
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  7. rmm0484

    rmm0484 Member

    Cyber, thanks for all that you do...
  8. ryoder

    ryoder New Member

    I just had a great chat with an advisor at Sullivan online about their Phd Information Technology Management program.
    They allow you to transfer in 16 "foundation credits" which they will evaluate based on your transcript. I didn't get any details about them.
    From the graduate catalog is this gem:A student may transfer up to 49% of Ph.D. coursework from a regionally or nationally accredited doctoral program in areas closely related to the management core, concentration area, research core, or electives.
    So that means that I can take doctoral courses at a low cost school, even an NA school and transfer them in as electives?
    I'll have to strongly consider that.
    Or I can take a bunch of courses at NCU and transfer them over to Sullivan. This might be a win-win because I like the at your own pace format of NCU but would rather have a brick and mortar degree.
  9. Kizmet

    Kizmet Moderator Staff Member

    I've seen nothing on the OUM website that suggests this is the case. Can you provide a link?
  10. rmm0484

    rmm0484 Member

    Surely you can find a good NA university that is cheaper than NCU but flexible as well... also, NCU is not as flexible as it once was. I would stay away from NCU for a PhD, because the flailing about with program and policy changes is still going on.
  11. ryoder

    ryoder New Member

    I am looking for some NA courses right now but they have to be post graduate or doctorate courses to transfer. I don't think that I can take graduate level courses after the conferral of my MBA and transfer those courses. Most PhD programs I have seen don't discriminate like this and they allow the student to take graduate level courses to fill out electives in the program.
    So NCU has the advantage in that they have a CAGS program in which I can take 6 courses paid for by my employer who will pay for a masters and graduate certificates but not a PhD and then transfer these courses into Sullivan.
    The other option is to pay for inexpensive graduate courses by myself.
    I wonder if I could take courses at Valdosta's DPA program a la carte and transfer those in? Thats an RA B&M school but I do not want a DPA credential.
  12. Ruble

    Ruble New Member

    Why the change of heart Steffan? I have waivered myself, but I think I will continue on the Liberty path. I finished my Ed.S. this summer and have 21 hours left in the Ed.D. I'm splitting time between Liberty and working on my graduate cert in behavior analysis from Ball State.
  13. StefanM

    StefanM New Member

    I'm not sure. I'm just thinking about all of my options while I still have time.

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