Diploma mill degree recipients listed

There sure is alot of Who's Who on that CV. That is one of the most lucrative scams going.

 

Another using the diploma mill United States National Consortium Staff College to further a state military career. Obviously no one checked into his background in Alabama, if he really has the position he claims on this site. The military at state and federal levels need to do better on checking these things.

http://waynesavage.org/About%20Wayne%20Savage.htm

 

The Dirtbag's record doesn't exist in the U.S Army. According to the quote above, he is currently a Brigadier General in the Army, and non of the record is existed.

Wow! So many people get away with a phony Ph.D; I think I would do the same after my Master degree. Therefore, I have time to travel around the world.

 

How do you know this?

 

He is trying to say that he entered the Army in 1980 and "since then", meaning since the Army he became a Brigadier General. He is in the Alabama State Defense Force (legit), the Corps of Chaplains and the USNDFSCOM since the Army. Savage is a Lieutenant Colonel in the Alabama State Defense Force.

He probably made his phony Brigadier General rank in the Corps of Chaplains or the USNDFSCOM. Neither of this two are military, but have been seen wearing military uniforms, which is a criminal offense. They also both hand out phony rank like candy. The phony USNDFSCOM even once claimed to have offices at the Pentagon on its website, as well as, running a diploma mill.

One must wonder why no one in the Alabama State Defense Force has picked up on all this and had him charged.

 

IIRC, it is against the law to claim to be an officer of the United States and not be one.

 

ooppsss. Sorry, I can't tell.

 

SCRA...

https://www.dmdc.osd.mil/scra/owa/home

 

Just a word of caution: If an institution is giving out fake degree’s, I would not be quick to trust that they kept reliable records, so I would not assume just because a name is on the list that person actually did anything.

Also, to the best of my understanding, you can buy fake degrees all you want, it is using them that is a crime, so again, even if a person is on the list I would hesitate to speculate about what they did with the degree without first hand knowledge.

Also, I don’t see where the reporter has two independent sources for this so I’m not sure how this information was verified.

 

I just forwarded it to his CO. What he does with it is his business. If he has a legit degree then he has nothing to worry about. If he doesn't, he deserves what he gets.

 

Why would you quote my post with this response, I don’t understand your goals and really don’t need to be associated with them.

 

Because you issued a word of caution. There is nothing to be cautious about as avenues of verification exist.

 

Best of luck to you, but let’s not interact on the board anymore. Going forward, if I post something, just assume it isn’t meant for you. I’ll do the same.

 

Do as you will. I will respond as I wish.

 

Sure, all the while hiding behind an alias. Post with your real name: as you say there is nothing to be cautious about if you are legit.

 

Is there some reason why I would be obliged to do so?

 

I think that most cases, using a fake or substandard degree isn't a crime either. 'Use' is just too broad and all-encompassing a concept. Using a fake degree in order to mislead (as compared to amuse or whatever) is a species of lying, and lying isn't in and of itself a crime, though it can become one in certain circumstances. What is criminal then is usually fraud, and fraud in turn requires that somebody has suffered damages by relying on the misrepresentation.

So I agree with you about being careful with these names. It's why I'm a little troubled by their being published.

I can imagine that some people enrolled in SRU believing that it was what this board calls 'GAAP', that it was a legitimate Liberian university. There was a great deal of heated debate right here on Degreeinfo about whether or not SRU was legitimate, so I can understand well-meaning people being taken in. It really was fairly convincing if you didn't look at it too closely. Some students may not have realized until after they sent their check that SRU was so substandard as to be laughable and that they had just been taken by internet con-artists, but their names might still appear on the list. That doesn't mean that they ever misled anyone by making false education claims or that they ever had any ill-intent.

 

Well put, and exactly why I often chime in on stuff like this. Anyone can put your name on just about anything. What I am puzzled by is that according to the article the government refused to release the list, yet here is a list.

 

Everything Bill says is true and I agree with (except publishing the list causes me somewhat less concern, I think). I just wanted to point out that my recollection is that the heated debate was between some SRU representatives that are no longer around and regulars here on degreeinfo. With the regulars pointing out that when pigeons can pass tests that would earn them degrees then the school is non-wonderful.

 

It is a little thing called the Public Information Act.