After several months on this forum, I continue to watch the same chain of events play out repeatedly. 1) It is argued that generally recognized accreditation is needed, RA or DETC, or the foreign equivolents in England, SOuth Africa, Australia, etc. 2) Everyone seems to agree degree/diploma mills are bad 3) Arguments occur about different state licensing, but in general there seems to be agreement that California approval may be better than nothing because some professions allow licensing in Califonia, but no one would actually "want such a dgree because of its limitations" 4) then the arguments start about DETC, it is legitimate, but just not as good as RA, "so why would anyone pursue that option with its limitations when RA options exist" 5) Then there is the argument about foreign equvolents which are really great, but again"so many limitations" why would people pursue them 6) this is followed by "yes it is RA, but it such a poor program and its really 4th tier, so it really has too many limitations, so with all those limitations why would you pursue that school?" 7) this is then followed by well yes it is RA, but because it is DL, academia may not accept it "so with those limitations" why would you pursue it? If we keep along this path, the next logical step will be "well yes it is RA, but it is only 4th tier, or it is only 3rd tier, or only 2nd tier, which means it has too many limitations" WHy would you go to a school except 1st tier, this argument can be followed by it is not in the top 20 or not in the top 10, so why.......... My concern is that this is supposed to be about legitimate distance options. I think we all come to the forum knowing there are limitations and working for a brighter future with greater acceptance, but I think the ongoing scurge of any thing that is not HArvard or YAle, adds to the limited utility of DL. I am of the opinion if the program is legitimately accredited, retains its accreditation, it has some utilitiy. The more the programs gain acceptance over attack, the greater utility they will have over time. I am aware of circumstance 10 years ago where people with degrees Nova, Walden, Saybrook, Fielding etc could not get academic jobs or promotions based on their degrees, now this has changed substantially because of all the work towards accrediting and legitimacy. DETC and foreign equivolencies hold the same potential. I remain concerned that if DL people continue to make these attacks, how can non-DL people ever get on with understanding the value of DL. Just curious how other members of the forum think.