DBA Walden and the like??

Discussion in 'Business and MBA degrees' started by 01ajouve, Mar 28, 2012.

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  1. 01ajouve

    01ajouve New Member

    Hello -

    I have my B.S. and MBA from an AACSB accredited University. I'm looking at getting into the DBA program at Walden which has the ACBSP accredited for its business school. I know that I could teach adjunct at the University level with the graduate hours that I have now and finishing the CPA exam. I recently completed the CFE credential.

    My Questions: Does anyone have any experience with the DBA at Walden either currently attending or post graduation or with any DBA/PhD program that ONLY has the ACBSP. I currently work in the community college system as a staff member and wish to move into a teaching role and I think the DBA would help either land that first teaching role for me and maybe down the road move me into possibly a director's role or dean's role - at the two year level. of course

    Any feedback on the above or related information would be greatly appreciated!

    Thanks, Anthony
     
  2. RFValve

    RFValve Well-Known Member


    Walden in my opinion is one of the best online schools. It has many success stories, if you google "PhD, Walden" you will find many graduates holding positions in academia and higher administration.

    Your background is more than enough to teach at a 2 year school, the DBA from Walden might help to differentiate yourself so it is not a bad option.

    ACBSP is overated, if you look at the accredited schools by this agency, you will find mainly community colleges and small universities. Granted, it is better than nothing but nothing that will set you apart from the crowd.
     
  3. carlosb

    carlosb New Member

    The ACBSP is a haven for for-profits and small schools. Schools like Keiser, DeVry and Argosy are candidates or possibly already accredited depending on location.

    The University of Phoenix, American International University (AIU) and Northcentral are accredited.
     
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  4. RFValve

    RFValve Well-Known Member

    ACBSP seems to be too close in name with AACSB. I believe this accreditation is mainly a second tier accreditation that targets schools not able to get AACSB accreditation.

    AACSB accreditation is practically impossible to get by for profit schools that follow the model of heavy use of cheap adjunct faculty.

    AACSB accreditation requires a high ratio of full time faculty and requires a certain level of research output from faculty. It also requires a certian level of professional accreditation and high standards.

    You cannot get the required AACSB research output based on adjuncts and weak full time faculty that hardly publishes.

    I don't know the details of the ACBSP accreditation but I see tons of foreign schools and community colleges there so it seems like a low tier accreditation.
     
  5. Rich Douglas

    Rich Douglas Well-Known Member

    ACBSP isn't very meaningful. But then again, neither is AACSB. AACSB accredits almost every top B-school. It is hard to discern the value of AACSB accreditation vs. the reputation of said B-schools. Except.....

    Undergraduates taking business degrees and wanting to go on to AACSB-accredited MBA programs should consider taking their undergraduate degrees from AACSB-accredited schools, too. Admission is easier and pre-requisites are likely to be diminished.

    Note: In the past, AACSB accreditation didn't technically extend to doctoral programs. I haven't checked to see if that's changed.
     
  6. major56

    major56 Active Member

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  7. major56

    major56 Active Member

    Agreed and in my view, likewise so is AACSB …
     
  8. 01ajouve

    01ajouve New Member

    Thank you all for the postings. I agree with everything and your thoughts confirm what I already knew. I guess the question for me know is do I chance the cost/time of DBA accounting to move up in the community college system???? Hmmmmm
     
  9. RFValve

    RFValve Well-Known Member

    As most CCs only require a Masters', I would say that the DBA is not a bad option but you might not need it. However, the DBA would put you in a higher bracket in the pay scale at most CCs.

    You might also qualify to teach at private and small 4 years college or Universities. I know Devry is always looking for full time teachers in Accounting. Their roster is full of faculty with doctorates from schools like Walden, NCU, Trident, etc.
     
  10. Wareagle2012

    Wareagle2012 New Member

    Hi!

    I'm kind of in the same boat as the author of this thread. I have done some extensive digging into this school, and I have come back with mostly positive results.

    I recently applied to the DBA program for the following reasons:

    1. Desire to continue my education.
    2. Convenience of online format for working adult
    3. Cost of "brick and mortar" compariables with AACSB accreditation.
    4. Less stringent admissions requirements.

    Is the rigor and prestige going to be the same as Havard? No!

    Are employers going to be lining up to hire me because I have a DBA for
    walden? Probably not.

    Will I be able to be a college professor a a top 100 university? No.

    Do I expect my professors, administrators, and classmates to all be of high caliber? No.

    But, that's okay. I'm not doing this for prestige. I'm looking to add another credential to my list of experiences. Learn something new and hope that I can make my organization a little better as a result.

    Walden DBA is not a stand alone asset. It should be viewed as a separator, something "extra" that might make an otherwise generic or "cookie cutter" resume standout.

    I have an MBA (AACSB school), BA (USNWR ranked school), and a graduate-level certificate from a top 15 national university. All "brick and mortar" schools.

    I view the DBA from Walden as more of a credential (ie CPA) than I do a Doctorate degree. It definitely is, and you should be proud to have earned it, but I just think expectations should be tempered down.
    Learn something and they apply that new knowledge to something g constructive. Then you will be able to assess the true value of an complete online school.

    Walden is a real school, with all the proper accreditations. It's just not a prestigious school. Only the students and it's graduates can change that stigma they do with their Walden degrees.

    Just my opinion. Hope that helps.
     
  11. BIGA

    BIGA New Member

    ACBSP is successfully competing for foreign schools seeking a US-based accreditation. There are two or more foreign regions that active in accreditation, for example Region 8. I see AACSB trying to maintain its brand and exclusivity, but it's value is being slowly diminished. I had read that AACSB has come up with a second tier qualification for schools in say India, wanting name association with AACSB.
     
  12. Koolcypher

    Koolcypher Member

    Well said :cool::iagree:
     

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