DBA / PhD Options

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  1. JP007

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    Hello All,

    I love this board! It's been a huge resource. So, I've recently applied to the following blended DL DBA / PhD programs, all for an economics focus:

    Durham DBA
    IE DBA
    Manchester DBA
    Cass PhD

    I was wondering if anyone had an idea of similar quality DBA / PhD programs as listed above, geared to working professionals for DL / blended DL from top 20 ranked Unis .

    I've also spoken to several schools (Kings, Leicester, Exeter), that while they "have" a DL option, they aren't specifically geared to working professionals doing a part time DL degree. These schools may allow a part time DL, but they tend want you to prove your academic success already (i.e. listing your published works today...etc..etc..) and the programs seem to be set up for ppl who want to eventually be full time professors post PhD. You also walk directly into writing a PhD, while the 4 programs I listed seem more geared to training you first to write a doctorate. At least this is my impression from chatting w/ the various school. I plan on continuing to work full time and eventually be a part time professor. I would love to hear any specific conflicting experiences that differ.

    My question to the board, are there any other programs from top rated Unis (must be a top 20 Uni ranked or b-school) that offer either 1) a DL/blended DBA, or a 2) DL/blended PhD that I should consider at this point? The Uni's pedigree is essential.

    I will keep everyone in the loop once I get in / start at a program, and obviously happy to be a resource once I start.

    Thanks!!!!!!!!!!
     
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    Thanks for the Liverpool suggestion, it's a little further down on the rankings from the programs I'm targeting.
     
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    Which rankings are you using?
     
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    Some additional upper-tier /ranking UK B-schools you might also consider:

    Cranfield School of Management: The Cranfield Doctorates - Cranfield School of Management: DBA

    Henley Business School: Doctor of Business Administration (DBA)

    Bradford School of Management: Doctorate in Business Administration (DBA) - Bradford University School of Management

    Strathclyde Business School: Doctor of Business Administration - University of Strathclyde

    http://www.eduniversal-ranking.com/business-school-university-ranking-in-united-kingdom.html
     
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    Thanks! I've checked out Cranfield, Henley, Bradford and Strathclyde.....But I'm sticking to the top 20/30, I have a very good shot at Manchester and I'm trying to apply to schools above it in pedigree. Durham is my 1st choice, IE is after btwn and Cass below Manchester.

    Would love any other suggestions! Thanks!!!!!!!!!!!!
     
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    OK, I'm going to be a pain right now . . . if you're only going to consider a "Top 20" program then you've only got 20 schools to examine to see 1) if they have a DL PhD program of any sort and 2) is it geared the way you'd like. What would that take, an hour? (sorry, I get this way sometimes)
     
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    Ha! Yup, I already went through the top 20, and top 20 means top 30 / 40 given how varied the rankings can be...Just want to make sure I didn't miss anything...
     
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    To my knowledge, there are no rankings for professional doctorates in management published from internationally recognized institutions –

    Nothing negative regarding Durham Business School ... merely a FYI (re: MBA rankings though): E.g., (Henley (36th), Cranfield (45th), Bradford (58th), and Strathclyde (73rd) are all globally ranked ahead of Durham (97th), per Financial Times.

    Business school rankings from the Financial Times - FT.com
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  11. JP007

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    I totally agree that Durham's b-school is on the weak side...BUT I'm trying to balance out b-school reps and overall Uni reps...personally I care more about the overall Uni rep and in the UK Durham is a top 5 Uni, regarded just below Oxford / Cambridge. It has a similar rep to a Cornell / Dartmouth type Uni in the US. Given I'm not getting an MBA (already have one of those ;), but a DBA, I'm putting more credit into the overall Uni rep VS the b-school rep. Also Henley / Crainfield / Bradford / Strathclyde aren't top 30 b-schools OR top Unis, so I'm ignoring them....
     
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    Good for you re you’re evaluating the general university reputation (balancing out) vs. the B-school brand /ranking. You just didn’t disclose such until the most recent posting…

    Nevertheless, the very best to you with your endeavor…
     
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    Yup, I just want a good DBA / PhD with "brand" impact...either the Uni or the b-school....whatever helps my overall CV's brand, carries the most wgt, etc..etc... as I'm in a very brand focused carrier...

    Thanks for the support and tips!!!!
     
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    Purely offered as a possible additional program consideration:

    University of Bath: DBA in Higher Education Management (HEM)
    University of Bath - School of Management - Courses - Postgraduate - DBA in Higher Education Management
    University of Bath - School of Management - About - Rankings
    Top UK University League Tables and Rankings 2016 - Complete University Guide
    Business & Management Studies - Top UK University Subject Tables and Rankings 2016 - Complete University Guide
     
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    U Bath - GREAT program, but I'm not interested in education mgt....But THANKS!!!!

    I care about both the Uni's and b-school's rankings, because the higher ranked programs have better profs, get better students, which produce better alums..etc..etc...etc....and it has a better impact on my CV. I've gone to several Unis already and saw this first hand. Sure, knowledge is power & you can make your future no matter what...but you're career path is easier if you go to a more prestigious program, there's no downside there. That's my view. You are entitled to your opinion, I"m entitled to mine and that's that..

    I have nothing against Henley, but the Uni's and b-school's ranking is similar to UoM's. I like the UoM DBA program much better due to it's structure vs Henley. I've had several friends who did a masters at Henley in a science field and really enjoyed it! It's a great Uni!

    If I get into one of the four programs I listed, I'm happy to be a resource for the board. If I don't, I'll probably re-focus my doctoral idea and apply again next year.

    Have a great weekend mates!!!!!
     
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    Hi,

    I am doing my DBA at Middlesex University, London. The University has a significant experience in WBL (work-based learning) and draws on this experience for the DBA as well, which is studied with a WBL approach. Doing my best to stay away from any type of bias, I would like to note how rankings may vary, from my perspective:
    1. As for the newly updated CUG (the complete university guide) rankings in the UK, Middlesex come 89th among those 126 ranked in the overall ranking. However, when we dig somewhat deeper, we may find that the University is ranked 46th when measured by the Business & Management subject Research Quality. (This is also relevant here, since the DBA is a business research degree).
    2. The University is listed among the latest QS Top 200 Business Schools list, being included in the top 65 in Europe,holding the 62nd place. There are 26 UK Business Schools in that list, so in that sense they are among the top 26 in the UK.
    3. In the recently issued WhatUni rankings, which depends solely on student votes, Middlesex University took the 21th place in the overall ranking.

    In my opinion, too,rankings are useful indicators and also enjoyable to deal with. However, it is always best to get in touch with the schools and receive first hand information, get in touch with some alumni and/or students, evaluate cost/benefit and then decide accordingly considering all the factors including but not limited to these. This is my view, of course.

    Hope you the best with your studies.
    Regards,
     

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