Criminal Kerry?

You're the one who made this broad, sweeping generalization:

All the racist Democrats I named were in this century, within the last 40 years!

 

From time to time there are those who, no matter how much data you present, still don't get it.

 

How did you manage to not mention the overtly racist Woodrow Wilson and covertly racist FDR?

 

We don't need a "commission" to find out how 9-11 happened. The truth is in the timeline:

PRESIDENT CARTER, DEMOCRAT

In 1979, President Jimmy Carter allowed the Shah of Iran to be deposed by a mob of Islamic fanatics. A few months later, Muslims stormed the U.S. Embassy in Iran and took American Embassy staff hostage.

Carter retaliated by canceling Iranian visas. He eventually ordered a disastrous and humiliating rescue attempt, crashing helicopters in the desert.

PRESIDENT REAGAN, REPUBLICAN

The day of Reagan's inauguration, the hostages were released.

In 1982, the U.S. Embassy in Beirut was bombed by Muslim extremists.

President Reagan sent U.S. Marines to Beirut.

In 1983, the U.S. Marine barracks in Beirut were blown up by Muslim extremists.

Reagan said the U.S. would not surrender, but Democrats threw a hissy fit, introducing a resolution demanding that our troops be withdrawn. Reagan caved in to Democrat caterwauling in an election year and withdrew our troops – bombing Syrian-controlled areas on the way out. Democrats complained about that, too.

In 1985, an Italian cruise ship, the Achille Lauro, was seized and a 69-year-old American was shot and thrown overboard by Muslim extremists.

Reagan ordered a heart-stopping mission to capture the hijackers after "the allies" promised them safe passage. In a daring operation, American fighter pilots captured the hijackers and turned them over to the Italians – who then released them to safe harbor in Iraq.

On April 5, 1986, a West Berlin discotheque frequented by U.S. servicemen was bombed by Muslim extremists from the Libyan Embassy in East Berlin, killing an American.

Ten days later, Reagan bombed Libya, despite our dear ally France refusing the use of their airspace. Americans bombed Gadhafi's residence, killing his daughter, and dropped a bomb on the French Embassy "by mistake."

Reagan also stoked a long, bloody war between heinous regimes in Iran and Iraq. All this was while winning a final victory over Soviet totalitarianism.

PRESIDENT BUSH I, MODERATE REPUBLICAN

In December 1988, a passenger jet, Pan Am Flight 103, was bombed over Lockerbie, Scotland, by Muslim extremists.

President-elect George Bush claimed he would continue Reagan's policy of retaliating against terrorism, but did not. Without Reagan to gin her up, even Prime Minister Margaret Thatcher went wobbly, saying there would be no revenge for the bombing.

In 1990, Saddam Hussein invaded Kuwait.

In early 1991, Bush went to war with Iraq. A majority of Democrats opposed the war, and later complained that Bush didn't "finish off the job" with Saddam.

PRESIDENT BILL CLINTON, DEMOCRAT

In February 1993, the World Trade Center was bombed by Muslim fanatics, killing five people and injuring hundreds.

Clinton, advised by Dick Clarke, did nothing.

In October 1993, 18 American troops were killed in a savage firefight in Somalia. The body of one American was dragged through the streets of Mogadishu as the Somalian hordes cheered.

Clinton responded by calling off the hunt for Mohammed Farrah Aidid and ordering our troops home. Osama bin Laden later told ABC News: "The youth ... realized more than before that the American soldier was a paper tiger and after a few blows ran in defeat."

In November 1995, five Americans were killed and 30 wounded by a car bomb in Saudi Arabia set by Muslim extremists.

Clinton, advised by Dick Clarke, did nothing.

In June 1996, a U.S. Air Force housing complex in Saudi Arabia was bombed by Muslim extremists.

Clinton, advised by Dick Clarke, did nothing.

Months later, Saddam attacked the Kurdish-controlled city of Erbil.

Clinton, advised by Dick Clarke, lobbed some bombs into Iraq hundreds of miles from Saddam's forces.

In November 1997, Iraq refused to allow U.N. weapons inspections to do their jobs and threatened to shoot down a U.S. U-2 spy plane.

Clinton, advised by Dick Clarke, did nothing.

In February 1998, Clinton threatened to bomb Iraq, but called it off when the United Nations said no.

On Aug. 7, 1998, U.S. embassies in Kenya and Tanzania were bombed by Muslim extremists.

Clinton, advised by Dick Clarke, did nothing.

On Aug. 20, Monica Lewinsky appeared for the second time to testify before the grand jury.

Clinton responded by bombing Afghanistan and Sudan, severely damaging a camel and an aspirin factory.

On Dec. 16, the House of Representatives prepared to impeach Clinton the next day.

Clinton retaliated by ordering major air strikes against Iraq, described by the New York Times as "by far the largest military action in Iraq since the end of the Gulf War in 1991."

The only time Clinton decided to go to war with anyone in the vicinity of Muslim fanatics was in 1999 – when Clinton attacked Serbians who were fighting Islamic fanatics.

In October 2000, our warship, the USS Cole, was attacked by Muslim extremists.

Clinton, advised by Dick Clarke, did nothing.

PRESIDENT GEORGE BUSH, REPUBLICAN

Bush came into office telling his national security adviser, Condoleezza Rice, he was "tired of swatting flies" – he wanted to eliminate al-Qaida.

On Sept. 11, 2001, when Bush had been in office for barely seven months, 3,000 Americans were murdered in a savage terrorist attack on U.S. soil by Muslim extremists.

Since then, Bush has won two wars against countries that harbored Muslim fanatics, captured Saddam Hussein, immobilized Osama bin Laden, destroyed al-Qaida's base, and begun to create the only functioning democracy in the Middle East other than Israel. Democrats opposed it all – except their phony support for war with Afghanistan, which they immediately complained about and said would be a Vietnam quagmire. And now they claim to be outraged that in the months before 9-11, Bush did not do everything Democrats opposed doing after 9-11.

What a surprise.

 

Jimmy,

You've based a case on exceptions. Do you think anyone will take seriously your claim of the Republicans as the party of civil rights? Good lord, get serious. I mean is this Candid Camera or something. Is there a hidden camera filming me laughing my head off? I've been punked, right?

Please stop. You're killing me. I have a sense of humor, but your claim is ludicrous.

Here's one for you to Google. Who was the last Republican candidate for president endorsed by the NAACP? I know I know. The Democratic support of minorities is really a subversive plot to keep them on the welfare roles. The apparent insensitivity of the Republican party is really an all out effort to get them to pull themselves up by their bootstraps blah blah blah.

Nonsense.

I don't know - for starters maybe reread the history books/transcripts re the Kennedy/Wallace/University of Alabama stand off in 1963.



You might argue that Wallace's hatred and bigotry served as a catalyst to get the 1964 Civil Rights Act passed. Is that what you mean when you say the Republicans are the party of civil rights?

 

??? Cyrus, in case you haven't noticed, we still have men and women dying there. I would say we haven't won anything yet.

 

While I am aware the Republicans in the days of Wilson and FDR were more racially progressive, I was not aware Wilson and FDR were racists.

 

I am sorry you think Civil Rights and the hatred and violence against a race of people is funny.

Wallace was a Democrat as were most Southern politicians as well as many office holders in the Northwest, Midwest, and far North who opposed Civil Rights and the Civil Rights Act of 1964.

Nelson Rockefeller and RFK were responsible for JFK's final intervention into the violence against Blacks in the South.

Illinois Senator Everett Dirkson rallied the GOP to back LBJ's Civil Rights bill so it would become law.

Your revisionist history doesn't change the facts, Tom.

But, let's forget the past. The current President has more minorities on staff and in important governmental positions than the "nation's first Black President," Bill Clinton.

Clinton is on record using the "n" word while Governor of Arkansas.

 

Wilson was blatantly racist. Poster boy for the Dixiecrats.

With FDR you have to look at what was behind such things as "Labor" legislation. In short, black Americans were forced out of the trades.

 

I don't think black cabinet members like Condy Rice (or Colin Powell for that matter) really count as upholding the black agenda. I think it's fair to say that her views are not really in accord with the average inner-city black. I think you're confusing skin color and philosophy.

I give Rice credit though. How do you rise through the Republican ranks if you're a black woman? You adopt the views of conservative white males - that's how!!! You become a shiny token. Bravo!! If she had the views of, say, Barbara Lee, do you think she'd be in Bush's cabinet? Not a chance.

Here's some stats which should clarify things. Of the 47 members of Congress who earned the NAACP's recognition for championing their legislative priorities, 37 were Dems, 9 were Repubs, and 1 independent.

 

Hi Tom57: I'm sooo happy that a poster who uses racial epithets on this very board is castigating you, of all people. If that doesn't give you a sense of theater of the absurd, I dunno what will. I wait with bated breath for the pseudo-psychological diagnosis upon you.

And no, you and I likely don't agree on politics--so what?

Welcome to the anti-flummery front, comrade.


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Hi Decimon: Thanks for the reminder of America's worst president.

 

I'm no fan of Bush, but I think you are off base here. First, there is no "black agenda" anymore than there is a "white agenda." There are certainly groups -- The Congressional Black Caucus, for example -- that don't agree with Bush's philosophy, but they certainly do not represent all black people.

Second, it does not matter what the philosophy of these officials might be. They are still role models in high government offices, and that's a powerful thing. Bush has appointed more minorities to cabinet-level positions than any other president. Personally, I put a greater value on actions than rhetoric.

 

How refreshing! Here is a man who admitted he is "no fan of Bush" who is objective enough to be fair!

Good for you, Jeff! I am reminded of another Unitarian, The Rev. Dr. Forrest Church, who, as a Democrat (His father was U.S. Senator Frank Church.), praised Bush 41 in a sermon not long after the 1988 election.

 

That's not only insulting to Dr. Rice, but to every black person that doesn't fall into ideological lock-step with the NAACP and the likes of Jesse Hi-Jackson. Condoleeza Rice is not only a role-model for blacks, but for women and every citizen in this country. She came from nothing, and is now the most powerful black woman in history.

I guess in your world, conservative blacks like Dr. Rice, J.C. Watts, and Dr. Alan Keyes are "tokens", but liberal blacks are free-thinkers? Are you shitting me???

Duuuuuhhhh......ya think so? Newsflash, Tom.....Presidents usually choose people of their own ideology to serve in their cabinet.

The NAACP's legislative agenda includes reverse racism (a.k.a. affirmative action) and extortion (a.k.a. reparations). If I were a member of Congress, I would hardly lose sleep about being passed over for NAACP recognition.

 

Here are some more tokens for Tom:

http://www.acrc1.org

http://www.armstrongwilliams.com

http://www.ceousa.org

http://www.cnbl.org

http://www.nationalcenter.org/P21Index.html

http://www.urbancure.org/book/index.html

And let's not forget America's biggest token black, Colin Powell.

I like Tom, I really do, but with all due respect, if a Republican had made similar remarks, he/she would be vilified!