Cheap online PhD Wesleyan University, Philippine

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  1. MK1980

    MK1980 New Member

    Have any of you seen or heard of this school? The university was founded and is run by the American Methodists. PhD program is online and price is good.

    https://www.wyith.edu/programme-wesleyan_phd.htm

    Pros:
    1) Price is 10,600 in total
    2) Takes only 30-36 month
    3) Recognized by WES as equivalent to a US PhD
    https://www.wyith.edu/programme-wesleyan_all_equivalency.pdf

    4) School is under the oversight of Methodists and listed in their directory (with others - Duke, SMU, etc).
    https://www.gbhem.org/
    Could give access to adjunct opportunities in the US Methodist-run colleges?

    5) Name recognition - Wesleyan University sounds official

    Cons:
    1) School is in Philippines. Not saying bad, but how well received?
    2) Never heard of it before. I cannot find review.
     
  2. SteveFoerster

    SteveFoerster Resident Gadfly Staff Member

    Hmm, I don't see much reason to believe this, tbh.
     
  3. LearningAddict

    LearningAddict Well-Known Member

    But the big question remains: is it equivalent to a U.S. regionally accredited PhD? Uncertain, because WES gives U.S. equivalency to "non-accredited" (their exact terminology) degrees, so being that the report is unofficial we can't know for sure whether the equivalency mentioned there is regionally accredited or non-accredited.
     
  4. SteveFoerster

    SteveFoerster Resident Gadfly Staff Member

    It's been around since 1946, so I'd be astonished it they came back with anything other than RA equivalent.
     
  5. LearningAddict

    LearningAddict Well-Known Member

    As I'm sure you're well aware, age of operation won't necessarily impact equivalence determinations unless an operation is so new that evaluators haven't gotten a gauge on an institution's overall legitimacy, but usually in that situation they just hold off on evaluating that institution until more information can be gathered. Wyith Institute appears to be connected with the University in some way, but the Institute's own inception was 1992 and it appears they didn't become a fully set school until years later. That in itself is no problem, but...

    This appears to be a situation where Wyith teaches the program and Wesleyan awards the degree. It looks like the degree titles between both entities are the same, so it may not be a propio type of situation, but I think more investigation is needed to determine that and to get an idea of where things might head during a foreign credential evaluation.
     
  6. SteveFoerster

    SteveFoerster Resident Gadfly Staff Member

    Not necessarily, but I'd be awfully hard pressed to come up with a 75 year old university anywhere in the world that wouldn't evaluate as RA equivalent.
     
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  7. LearningAddict

    LearningAddict Well-Known Member

    *All 75-year old or older NA schools based both domestically and foreign have entered the chat*

    Yeah, I know that's not entirely fair, but you did say "anywhere in the world" and technically they wouldn't make it if they could be evaluated. Hey, I saw a needle point sized opening, I had to take it, lol :D
     
  8. SteveFoerster

    SteveFoerster Resident Gadfly Staff Member

    Okay, I laughed. And then I thought... are there any? And I then I remembered that Penn Foster is 130 years old and is DEAC. And then I wondered how long have they've actually offered degrees.
     
  9. LearningAddict

    LearningAddict Well-Known Member

    I wonder about that, and I also wonder if there was ever a time in its history when it was regionally accredited at the degree-granting level.

    About old NA schools: Off the top of my head, I can think of Clinton College (127 years old and offering free tuition right now!), Virginia University of Lynchburg (135 years old), both TRACS accredited and may have been regionally accredited at different points during their histories. Then I looked up these DEAC schools:

    American National University - 135 years old
    Atlantic University - 91 years old
    Grace Communion Seminary - 74 years old

    For international schools, I know Schiller International (only 57 years old) is ACICS accredited in the U.S. and ACICS accredits all of its international campuses. I remember Deakin University in Australia (47 years old) was accredited by the DEAC (once DETC).

    The international part has me interested in looking deeper into all of the NA accreditors that are accrediting campuses in other countries. I know one ACICS accredited campus is in Germany, and I'm almost certain Germany doesn't accept NA degrees so that's something interesting for me to look into.
     
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  10. Maxwell_Smart

    Maxwell_Smart Active Member

    LA,

    Once again, you're a troublemaker and I think we've all had enough.
     
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  11. Rich Douglas

    Rich Douglas Well-Known Member

    Academic degrees? Not long. It looks like since the mid-2000s. They were, for many decades, ICS, which did award associate degrees in applied (non-academic) areas.

    Because DEAC didn't start accrediting schools awarding academic degrees until the early 1980s, their history--by definition--isn't very long.
     
  12. AsianStew

    AsianStew Active Member

    It's a mix of both, one or the other, some Local or International students like to have RA undergrad and then go through grad studies from other countries (usually where they get cheaper education that is equivalent to RA). Local or International students may want it the other way, get a cheap education overseas for undergrad while they're young and a fanatic of travel, then come back for a RA graduate education.

    In regards to this school, it's a partnership between a "mid tier" PI university and a "lower end" institute. If this floats your boat, great! For me, the ROI/Value seeker, it just missed several marks - It's in the middle of the pack, slightly lower actually. If you can find something comparable - higher ranking, more recognized, basically cheaper, easier, faster to finish, then it'll be a better deal.

    Wiki: Higher education in the Philippines - Wikipedia
     
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  13. LearningAddict

    LearningAddict Well-Known Member

    I just can't control myself, LOL!
     
  14. mintaru

    mintaru Active Member

    The answer is actually pretty simple. Schiller International University's own degrees are not recognized in Germany. But on Schiller's accreditation page there is this section:
    Degrees from the University of Roehampton are of course recognized in Germany, and this is how Schiller can maintain a campus in Germany.

    By the way, Schiller is not the only school that does that. EU Business School's Munich campus is another example.
     
    Last edited: Aug 27, 2021
  15. MK1980

    MK1980 New Member

    @AsianStew what would be better PhD options from your perspective? with same cost? thank you.
     
  16. Stanislav

    Stanislav Well-Known Member

    My red flag with this deal would be this Wiyth Institute. Too much going on with this place, and a lot of content on the website reads like spin. If offered directly by Wesleyan, or at least confirmed on university's website, it would go a long way bolstering the credibility of this scheme.
     
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  17. AsianStew

    AsianStew Active Member

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