CHEA & USDOE Approve Doctorates with no Dissertation

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  1. RAM PhD

    RAM PhD Member

    Wait a minute, it's April Fools Day isn't it? :wall:
     
  2. TEKMAN

    TEKMAN Semper Fi!

  3. Rich Douglas

    Rich Douglas Well-Known Member

    DETC doesn't award degrees. Which DETC-accredited schools were you referring to?

    I would think that the CTU doctorates require the same amount, scope, and level of work expected in a dissertation. I can't tell from the website, but I wouldn't be surprised if the papers have to be a string of them around the same subject, some conceptual and some research, perhaps with a literature review (as an article) tucked in there as well.
     
  4. TEKMAN

    TEKMAN Semper Fi!

    Rich,

    I included the link in my post, Columbia Southern University's Doctor of Business Administration. Also, I verified the information at CTU by myself; it can be different topic within discipline. For example, Doctor of Computer Science with Information Assurance, students can publish Encryption Algorithm, Cyber Security Warfare, and Intrusion Detection/Intrusion Prevent Systems (IDS/IPS).

    At the Nova Southeastern University's program orientation; I asked this question to the School of Graduate Computer Information Systems program director. He stated that the school grants some students with this option on basic versus dissertation.
     
  5. ebbwvale

    ebbwvale Member

    I was doing a Doctor of Policy with Charles Sturt University by way of publication. I had to complete a number of published papers and then write an exogesis on the articles. I had the published articles and I was embarking on the exogesis when I fell seriously ill and had to quit. The published articles were around a new philosophical direction in public policy so it fell into the category of original work.

    Unfortunately, when I recovered and wished to continue with the degree I found that the university had suspended this program. I would not necessarily recommend this path as it is very difficult. The articles had to be published in peer reviewed journals which is no small effort. There is a significant period of time between submission and publication and usually a number of rewrites. The choice of journal for submission is critical as a mismatch will end in rejection and then a need to rethink the approach. You still have to have originality in the work and theme that throughout your articles. Each article virtually has to become a chapter in your exogesis and has to be synthesized with the others.

    I think that the traditional path would be a lot less complicated with less "moving parts" that can break down or that need attention, for example, each article had to be subjected to a blind review by two experts in the field which effectively meant more examiners. With five articles, I had at least ten examiners in total for the five articles and then the three examiners for the total work. I left the program with a Masters with Honors for the work done and five published articles so it was not a total loss
     
  6. Rich Douglas

    Rich Douglas Well-Known Member

    TEKMAN: Awesome input. Thanks.

    ebbwvale: You, too. Your experiences should dissuade a lot of looky-loos who talk about this approach as if it is a simpler or easier way. It is not. But it is a very good path for someone who has already published a cogent body of articles.

    Thanks to you both, truly.
     

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