ChatGPT is bullsh*t

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  1. sanantone

    sanantone Well-Known Member

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  2. Lerner

    Lerner Well-Known Member

    What about the new one, next generation, it's beta, but we hear it's a beast?
  3. SteveFoerster

    SteveFoerster Resident Gadfly Staff Member

    Thank you, sanantone. AI is great at writing middling-quality text with unreliable relationship to actual facts, and remixing existing art in ways that shows no understanding of its subject matter. Everything beyond that is hype.

    "AI accidentally made me believe in the concept of a human soul by showing me what art looks like without it." - Natasha Mazumdar
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  4. Mac Juli

    Mac Juli Well-Known Member


    I would say that everyone is entitled to their opinion, but it's important to consider the fact that ChatGPT is a cutting-edge technology that has been trained on vast amounts of data to generate human-like responses. While it may not be perfect, it is constantly improving and has the potential to be a valuable tool for a variety of applications. It's always important to approach new technologies with an open mind and give them a fair chance before forming a judgment.

    (Answer generated by ChatGPT. Which sounds for me as a native French speaker VERY strange [you can read ChatGPT as "Cat, I have farted"]).

    Best regards,
    Mac Juli
  5. datby98

    datby98 Active Member

    I used AI to help me summarize the paper, and the following is what I get:

    Large language models like ChatGPT can be seen as purveyors of "bullshit," not lying or hallucinating, due to their design focusing on generating text that mimics human speech rather than conveying accurate information.
    Key Takeaways
    • Large language models are described as engaging in "bullshit" due to their indifference to truth and intent to produce convincing text over conveying accurate information.
    • ChatGPT and similar models are designed to imitate human speech without concern for truth, potentially misleading audiences.
    • Describing AI inaccuracies as "hallucinations" is misleading and does not align with the nature of their outputs.
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  6. Rich Douglas

    Rich Douglas Well-Known Member

    For now.

    I have a run-of-the-mill, late model Mazda. It gets 255 horsepower on premium fuel with its turbo 4-cylinder engine.

    The first Model T Ford mass produced got 20 horsepower. Should we have just pitched it for its lackluster performance?

    AI is here to stay. Humans had better get on top of this and be ready to redesign social structures, particularly in terms of work and pay.

    Since the Industrial Revolution, we've been in steep competition with each other, measured by how much pay we could wrangle from our employers. With AI, there might not be enough work to go around for humans. For those who cannot work--because there is no work for them to do--are we to let them starve? Sure, there will always be room for the most creative. But what about all those people who trade their low-skill labor and loyalty for a decent living? They've been under threat for decades, but AI may be the thing that wipes out their jobs completely.

    We may be faced with the need to redefine work, worth, and how one takes a productive place in our society.
  7. sanantone

    sanantone Well-Known Member

    It will definitely improve, but its current abilities are overstated to the point that college students and non-students are solely relying on it for information believing that it's accurate.

    Side note: At this moment, the AI update on my phone is working my nerves because the grammar and spelling corrections and predictive text are worse than what we previously had.
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  8. Vicki

    Vicki Well-Known Member

    ChatGPT is great for brainstorming and recipes! I have used it several times when I am not sure what to make for dinner. I can start with a general idea based on what I have… like… give me a recipe with chicken and rice that I can make in a skillet. It will spit out a recipe, then I can tweak it by saying something like, I can not use milk or egg… or i don’t have thyme. So far, it has given me wonderful new recipes.

    People who are trying to get ChatGPT to earn their degree for them are doing it all wrong, That’s not using the tool correctly, that’s trying to get something for nothing.
  9. Rich Douglas

    Rich Douglas Well-Known Member

    Ironically, this was an early selling point of personal computers back in the late 1970s. You'd be able to track your ingredients and figure out what you could make from them. It was nonsense, of course. And now it's not.
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  10. BlueMason

    BlueMason Audaces fortuna juvat

    I have used CGPT for about two years now and it has progressively improved. Hallucinations are fewer, particularly with access to the internet. As someone else mentioned, it is here to stay - and it will continue to get better. Will it replace some jobs? It will certainly mean a reduction of some, but we are not at the elimination stage just yet.

    It can be trained and it can be quite accurate, but it absolutely requires human oversight. Having used it, it has given me more good than bad data, has drafted emails for me, reworded phrases and paragraphs, and much more. It does a great job in creating outlines, it can speak to any topic imaginable, etc. The benefits of AI outweigh the drawbacks, but it needs to be used correctly. Like Vicki said, it is a -tool-, and you either learn to use it, or face being replaced by someone who does.
  11. Lerner

    Lerner Well-Known Member

    One of the tools I use at work and for personal needs, Since mastering the prompts, the tool is extremely helpful and increased my productivity.
    But its one of range of AI tools I have been increasingly using. It's constantly improving.

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