Central University of Nicaragua Degree Scheme

Discussion in 'Accreditation Discussions (RA, DETC, state approva' started by Rich Douglas, Nov 21, 2021.

  1. Garp

    Garp Well-Known Member

    I have heard similar stories about University of Phoenix. These have ranged from hiring people blackballing them to being told by a University they would take no credits at the undergraduate level much less accept the degree into their graduate programs. It has damaged it's brand (it is a check the box degree).

    Schools like Andersonville that are exempt are in another category. Denominational and related entities have their own set of criteria. If they assess Andersonville as rigorous enough to qualify and of the correct theological understanding, it may be more suitable in certain circles than a liberal well accredited seminary because it is fundamentalist and dispensational. Don't try applying with a PhD from Georgetown or Catholic University of America.
  2. Rich Douglas

    Rich Douglas Well-Known Member

    I don't believe it is because of the for-profit status of the school.

    UoP gets what I call the "McDonalds Treatment." Because they were the largest, they became the archetype for the for-profit sector. On a list of for-profit schools the average person can name, I'm guessing UoP is the only name on it.

    Burger King is guilty of anything and everything McDonalds can be blamed for, but they don't get 1% of the heat. Same with UoP.

    Ignored are the innovations UoP brought or adopted, including team-based assignments (an essential skill in any career), compressed course schedules, standardized, objective-based curricula, etc. If you do a UoP MBA, you've earned your MBA.

    But as I've cautioned many times on this board, when you go to a university, you have an exchange of capital. You give your money and your effort. They give you an education and a degree. And it is on this last form of capital that UoP can fail students. There is a huge difference between fame and infamy, but at its height--and I was there full-time back then--I'm not so sure the school made that distinction.

    Now, excuse me, but I've got to duck into Del Taco and do some homework for that AA from Strayer I've been putting off.....
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  3. Johann

    Johann Well-Known Member

    ¡Ay, Ay, Ay! ¡Buena suerte! :eek::eek:
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  4. Rich Douglas

    Rich Douglas Well-Known Member

    Del Taco, when the authenticity of Taco Bell just becomes too overwhelming.
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  6. Maxwell_Smart

    Maxwell_Smart Active Member

    But the Clinical Psychology program wasn't the one that was being discussed for licensing, at least not the posts my replies were building off of. Personally, I think the Clinical Psychology program would have big problems because it's being treated as a completion program which isn't normal for that discipline in the United States, and the title of "Clinical Psychologist" tends to carry some different requirements for licensing in a number of states which I don't think a completion program would work with in a lot of them, but I can't see many Americans enrolling in that, I think most would be going for the regular PhD program in Psychology.

    It is ridiculous, it's also the reality of the position the system puts us in the United States with this field, a game of possibilities and less certainties, and another reason why we have the crisis we have now with this. Oh, we rely on the schools to be on top of that information and to make sure students know before signing up as we should, and for the states to be monitoring it, but they make mistakes, or just outright don't give a damn enough to nail it down entirely (more on that later).

    To the system's credit, some states have recognized this problem and have attempted to provide ways for people to bridge to meet the requirements if something goes wrong, even working on reciprocity agreements between states. But by the time those got into play many people either found another avenue or left the field for other jobs and never came back. Even worse is that these things don't always work out as well as advertised. So if the degree is from a school in California or a school in Cochabamba, you can never be 100% sure that it's going to qualify exactly how it's written by the time you finish, changes happen, surprises happen, so all you can do is speak in possibilities based on generalized standards and work from there.

    There is a program in New York that just had a little issue with this (the CASAC Online program in NYC). People finished, and came up hours short, applications rejected (an acquaintance of mine has a daughter who got caught up in that). And the wild part is that this is a program backed by and registered with the state. It's not something that happens constantly, but when it does happen it hurts the field and the would-be therapists, and is a strain on the system that taxpayers support because then things have to be moved around to get everyone into compliance and time is money. They worked it out eventually, but even so, it has to make the next crop of potentials wary about jumping in and it's not like we can afford that problem right now anywhere in the country.
  7. Maxwell_Smart

    Maxwell_Smart Active Member


    It's also about money, and when your money is already stretched as far as it can go to keep your lights going, your roof over your family's head, and food on the table, becoming a licensed anything isn't going to be high on that list. So many people are struggling to make ends meet that the cost is simply out of reach for most, and it's not like you can get student loans for supervision costs so even if you got around the tuition hurdle you'd still have to deal with that boulder. You might be able to get lucky and land a job with a facility and not have to worry about that, but they're highly competitive and they normally look for younger blood. Most of the people here are older and would be changing careers to do it at this point in their lives.
  8. Rich Douglas

    Rich Douglas Well-Known Member

    Like I said, priorities.

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