Canada issues LGBTQ+ travel advisory for the U.S.

Discussion in 'Political Discussions' started by chrisjm18, Aug 31, 2023.

  1. Johann

    Johann Well-Known Member

    And a pernicious, toxic and noxious individual - I'm one kind of atheist and he's totally another - the kind I loathe! He expends much of his writing effort ridiculing people who are not atheists. A bully.
    This benighted statement exemplifies EXACTLY why I'm not here any more. Have fun, y'all -- without me.
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  2. tadj

    tadj Well-Known Member

    Not a fan of his either, but I respect the ongoing debate conducted among genuine scientists.
  3. Jonathan Whatley

    Jonathan Whatley Well-Known Member

    [That being a quote from Richard Dawkins, notably not in a peer-reviewed scientific paper but in an opinion piece in a magazine.]

    By that definition, a person with female external anatomy at and since birth, listed non-controversially as female at and since birth, and raised non-controversially as a girl, will not always become a woman! For example,
    Swyer syndrome (MedlinePlus)
  4. chrisjm18

    chrisjm18 Well-Known Member

    In Canada, that would be 2SLGBTQI+ :D
  5. chrisjm18

    chrisjm18 Well-Known Member

    Agreed! I watched a detransitioner who just turned 18 years old. By her account, her family was misguided by doctors when she experienced mental health issues related to puberty. They were told that she was a boy and recommended gender-affirming care. I don't think any underage person should go through that. Let them make that decision when they are old enough.

    In my professional life, I treat everyone with respect, even if I disagree with them. Personally, I don't think there's any such thing as transitioning. You're either a boy or a girl. There's nothing humanly you can do to change that.

    If I feed my goat until it's big like a cow, it doesn't make it a cow.

    If it was up to me, I'd split the LGBTQIA+ into LGB for people like me and the TQIA+ madness for the rest. We shouldn't be under the same umbrella.
  6. Jonathan Whatley

    Jonathan Whatley Well-Known Member

    What are you even talking about?

    Probably one of these stories that went viral outside Canada but that don't support sweeping generalizations made from them:

    In the 2000s, an Islamic group leader filed complaints against Macleans magazine in the federal, Ontario, and BC human rights tribunals. He alleged they published eighteen articles that were discriminatory against Muslims or exposed Muslims to hatred and contempt. Mark Steyn was among the Macleans writers. He's active in American commentary and he talks about the complaints there.

    But all three tribunals dismissed the complaints.

    Jordan Peterson prominently talks hypotheticals about what if, because he didn't respect someone's pronouns, he had to respond to a complaint at a human rights tribunal.

    But after years of this as far as I can tell he's never had to respond to a complaint at a human rights tribunal.

    Jordan Peterson is in a current conflict with the board that regulates registered psychologists in Ontario.

    But it seems similar to occasional conflicts between licensed professionals and their regulatory boards in the US. (See for example this recent court decision.)
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  7. Stanislav

    Stanislav Well-Known Member

    That's factually incorrect. But until you are not supporting sending cops and Child Services after people who disagree with you, we can agree to disagree.
  8. chrisjm18

    chrisjm18 Well-Known Member

    I don't care what people do with their children. I only have my beliefs.


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