"Canada ceases to exist"

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  1. nosborne48

    nosborne48 Well-Known Member

    Well, maybe so, but again, the culture has to be common. I was thinking myself of the wave of unification in Europe in the 19th century but it's not a universal phenomenon, as you say.
     
  2. nosborne48

    nosborne48 Well-Known Member

    As to Quebec independence, that would depend upon whether Ottawa decided to permit it. They might. I don't see the U.S. supporting Quebec and without that, their position would be difficult to impossible.
     
  3. Stanislav

    Stanislav Well-Known Member

    I think this thinking was already rebuked, but also: sometimes "similar cultures" similarities are greatly exaggerated. As someone who grew up Russophone (now regretting that, but it was what it was), I decidedly and very adamantly reject any kind of "closer relationship" with a toxic entity headquartered in Kremlin.

    (A separate notion accepted by too many is Russia and Ukraine "sharing culture"; that is and always was an invented and heavily promoted lie, invented for the ethnic German Imperial house and advanced by Bolshevik thugs. That is a relationship between the oppressor and the oppressed, even though the oppressed was one of the oppressor's parents it time immemorial).
     
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  4. Stanislav

    Stanislav Well-Known Member

    Nonetheless: still less of a stretch. Also will not happen, but at least they have their own identity and are referred to as a "nation" in mainstream Canadian discourse.
     
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  5. Jonathan Whatley

    Jonathan Whatley Well-Known Member

    Repeatedly threatening to end Canadian sovereignty – and until then to inflict severe economic pain on Canadians – has almost immediately made Canadian nationalism the loudest it's been in generations and Canadian opposition to the White House the loudest it's been in Canada's existence as a country. (Since 1867; the War of 1812 while fought by many Canadians was governed from London.)
     
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  6. nosborne48

    nosborne48 Well-Known Member

    True! Also, so what?
     
  7. Jonathan Whatley

    Jonathan Whatley Well-Known Member

    A few weeks ago the Conservative Party had a basically Trump-friendly platform and a huge polling lead approaching the election sometime in 2025. After nine years and three elections Canadians were tired of Trudeau for reasons local to Canada.

    Now the Conservatives are distancing themselves from Trump, the Liberals are choosing a new leader but Trudeau's approval has rehabilitated, and the Liberals and the other major parties all with Trump-unfriendly platforms have new momentum.

    Trump was headed to a win in Canada until he started talking.
     
  8. Rich Douglas

    Rich Douglas Well-Known Member

    I hate to quibble, but Germany conquered Austria. It just did it without a shooting war. Not as bad as the Sudetenland and Czechoslovakia, but not exactly a merger. Had Austria resisted, Hitler would have invaded just the same.

    But even if we accept it as a merger, it's a one-off.
     
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  9. nosborne48

    nosborne48 Well-Known Member

    Well, the whole history of the German Empire comprises similar "one offs".
     
  10. nosborne48

    nosborne48 Well-Known Member

    Indeed, the European Union is an example of the sort of merger and accretion I'm talking about.
     
  11. Rich Douglas

    Rich Douglas Well-Known Member

    I think it's reasonable to conclude that in the modern Earth, countries split. They do not unite.
     
  12. Jonathan Whatley

    Jonathan Whatley Well-Known Member

  13. Jonathan Whatley

    Jonathan Whatley Well-Known Member

    Trump tariffs 'made something snap in us' - many Canadians see US rift beyond repair (Nadine Yousif, BBC News, February 5, 2025)
     

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