"Canada ceases to exist"

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  1. Lerner

    Lerner Well-Known Member

    Tariffs addressed in this interview:

     
  2. Bill Huffman

    Bill Huffman Well-Known Member

    There is something that is very wrong with this administration. I think his initials are DJT.
     
  3. Acolyte

    Acolyte Well-Known Member

    If Canada sucks so badly, why does he want them to become a state?
     
  4. Lerner

    Lerner Well-Known Member

    Listening to Rubio addressing the tariffs issue, makes sense.
    I understand there will be adjustment that will hurt.
    I think a diplomatic approach should be applied, followed by negotiations.
     
  5. Jonathan Whatley

    Jonathan Whatley Well-Known Member

    Negging.

    Written in 2015:
    Trump as Political Pick-Up Artist: The Donald is "Negging" His Rivals Brilliantly: The billionaire's insult-laced patter is straight outta a scurrilous dating scene (Nick Gillespie, Reason, September 15, 2015)
     
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  6. Suss

    Suss Active Member

    He did the same with Kim Jung-un. After all the insults hurled at Kim and N. Korea, with Kim returning the insults by (among other things) introducing us to the word "dotard," somehow Trump and Kim "fell in love." The two have been blissful pals ever since.
     
  7. Jonathan Whatley

    Jonathan Whatley Well-Known Member

    Trump’s Lust for Canada Echoes Putin’s Lust for Ukraine: Expansionist rhetoric, economic grievance, and fantasies of erasing an “artificial” border (Will Saletan, The Bulwark, March 18, 2025)
     
  8. Suss

    Suss Active Member

    What do you think Congress would do if Trump were to commit some aggressive act against Canada?
     
  9. NotJoeBiden

    NotJoeBiden Well-Known Member

    Probably make a strongly worded statement.
     
  10. Bill Huffman

    Bill Huffman Well-Known Member

    This could mean a couple of different things. What is done would differ based on the aggressive act.

    1. Slap tariffs on Canada and say Canada should be 51st state. We're there already. :mad:

    2. Send military across the border. Hopefully the military commanders would refuse the order. If not there would be huge outrage at least by Democrats. I would hope but I'm not convinced Republican elected officials would publicly express great outrage as well.

    I was first thinking I might come up with something between 1 and 2 but, I couldn't think of anything.
     
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  11. Rich Douglas

    Rich Douglas Well-Known Member

    I doubt it. Not on their own, anyway. They would have to get assurances from others in the Trump administration who would be ready to remove the president. While it's true that officers are expected to refuse unlawful orders, something of that magnitude would be difficult to arrive at.

    More likely would be mass resignations.
     
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  12. tadj

    tadj Well-Known Member

    Trump should be careful with his wishes.

    Steve Forbes
    The Canadian Takeover: Why Trump's Annexation Goal Could Backfire Spectacularly
    Trump’s annexation plan would backfire by giving Canada’s provinces 52 Senate seats—enough to control U.S. politics.

    Full article: https://archive.is/0EGpD
    (March 18, 2025)

    Warning! Canada could take over the United States. This isn't hyperbole—it's political mathematics
    . President Trump has repeatedly floated the idea of annexing Canada. Before rushing headlong into continental consolidation, he and other annexation enthusiasts should reconsider. The consequences would be profound and potentially devastating for America's constitutional balance.

    Our northern neighbor encompasses ten provinces and three territories, including the legendary Yukon. While Canadians may appear reserved, underestimating them at the negotiating table would be a serious miscalculation. They certainly won't accept becoming a single state. Instead, they'll insist on statehood for each province and territory. Under our Constitution, each state receives two senators—meaning Canada would instantly gain 26 senators, enough to form the decisive swing bloc in our upper chamber.

    That's troubling enough, but the scenario worsens when considering Canada's vast geography. Their shrewd negotiators would undoubtedly invoke American precedent to subdivide their political entities. After all, in 1889, our Dakota Territory was split into North and South Dakota. Maine was carved from Massachusetts in 1820, and West Virginia separated from Virginia during the Civil War. Following this established pattern, Canada could reasonably demand twice as many states—and twice as many senators.

    The result? A potential 52 new senators and substantial representation in the House of Representatives. What begins as American expansion would transform into what we in business recognize as a "reverse takeover"—where the acquired entity effectively gains control of the acquirer. Our continental ambition would ironically lead to Canadian dominance of our legislative branch.

    The historical implications add another troubling dimension. Canadians sided with Britain during our Revolutionary War. While American patriots shed blood for independence, our northern neighbors remained loyal to the Crown—a fact commemorated in provincial names like "British Columbia" and "Prince Edward Island." After our victory, many loyalists who opposed American independence fled northward. It would be a profound historical irony if descendants of those who rejected our founding principles gained significant influence over our republic.

    Cultural considerations create additional complications. Quebec's predominantly French-speaking population would certainly insist on maintaining Canada's official bilingualism as a condition of joining the union. This would necessitate integrating French alongside English in our federal operations—a significant governance shift few have seriously contemplated. Given the administration's packed agenda, it's difficult to imagine President Trump finding time for French lessons.


    Our nations differ fundamentally in character and historical development. The American frontier is symbolized by the independent cowboy; Canada's by the orderly Mountie. We fought a revolution to secure our independence; Canada evolved gradually from colonial status. These distinctions reflect deep-seated differences in national temperament that shouldn't be casually dismissed.

     
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  13. Bill Huffman

    Bill Huffman Well-Known Member

    An amusing outcome to a Trump fantasy should it somehow magically become reality. :D
     
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  14. SteveFoerster

    SteveFoerster Resident Gadfly Staff Member

    @tadj, don't threaten me with a good time!
     
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  15. Rich Douglas

    Rich Douglas Well-Known Member

    I suspect Quebec wouldn't come along.
     
  16. nosborne48

    nosborne48 Well-Known Member

    Good, good.
     
  17. Jonathan Whatley

    Jonathan Whatley Well-Known Member

    Canada is not going to be annexed willingly. If Canada is annexed unwillingly, don’t expect statehood with legitimate elections.
     
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  18. Jonathan Whatley

    Jonathan Whatley Well-Known Member

  19. tadj

    tadj Well-Known Member

    Quote: "By the way, I’m not going to say anything about Justin Trudeau or Canadian politics, of which I know nothing, except to note that whatever else he may have messed up, Trudeau has clearly been punished for the same inflationary wave that hit every other advanced economy." - Paul Krugman (https://paulkrugman.substack.com/p/oy-canada)

    This American author "knows nothing about Canadian politics", but says that Trump has saved Canada from "a real piece of work" that is Poilievre.
     
  20. SteveFoerster

    SteveFoerster Resident Gadfly Staff Member

    It's tough for Krugman to let knowing nothing stop him from pontificating when it's his job to express an opinion about everything.
     

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